Topic: Hello everyone! We have a very important announcement for you all.

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Damn...

Rather unfortunate given how curated and well maintained this site is over the alternatives. The "to be updated" edit has me hoping maybe they're considering another option. The models currently coming out are getting so much better, and I felt like we were entering a new big step, especially in the video category with H3.

I hope they do reconsider and see how many here support this site for what it is.

autobot said:
Interesting. Not a huge site but looks promising.

The hell is the rule about "borderline content" (vore, diapers, monsters) though? "It's kinda allowed but not really"? Some other stuff is kinda vague too. Not gonna lie, I hate random content policing like this. It always feels like the admin pushing his tag blacklist onto users.

Also perf is terrible.

I wanted to make an account there until I read the uploading guidelines. I can't stand vague shit like that.

Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI. Right now it's fully functional, but is still missing a few things, so I won't reveal its name just yet. I plan to finish the most important things in the next few days, so the site should be ready for the user registration then.

Key highlights:
- website runs on the Philomena engine (like Derpibooru, Tantabus, Furbooru)
- over 130 000 posts from e6ai are already on the website, with tags and descriptions intact. I hope to import the rest of the posts in the next few days.
- e6ai image comments have been backed up and will be imported
- e6ai votes/favs migration will be able to be done with a user-side script
- all tag descriptions/aliases/implications have been imported from e6ai with minor changes
- "quick tags" box and an optional autotagger for swift tagging
- anonymous posting option
- pretty much the same content policy as in e6ai
- robust filtering system - users can create custom filters and easily switch between them
- more relaxed quality policy - minor generation errors will be tagged, so they can be filtered out, if needed
- images with major generation errors might still be reported and deleted
- current image limit is 10 images per 24 hours, to prevent spam

I will return with more details in a few days, once the website is ready.

Updated

Kaleth

Moderator

ocillet said:
Damn...

Rather unfortunate given how curated and well maintained this site is over the alternatives. The "to be updated" edit has me hoping maybe they're considering another option. The models currently coming out are getting so much better, and I felt like we were entering a new big step, especially in the video category with H3.

I hope they do reconsider and see how many here support this site for what it is.

IIRC the original announcement was a copy/paste of e621's. Staff felt it was inappropriate as a last message to our user base, we wished our last message to you to be one coming from us.

Thanks for the work everyone. And being honest? It's an useless move. There are other places, not as curated as this one, but they exist and others will come. Thousands of models are already trained and will be improved: what's done is done, irreversible, for bad or for good. New ways of scrapping will be created, including with AI, this is an infinite cat and rat game and nothing can be done to eschew the inevitable.

I'll avoid e621 like a plague from now on.

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI. Right now it's fully functional, but is still missing a few things, so I won't reveal its name just yet. I plan to finish the most important things in the next few days, so the site should be ready for the user registration then.

I'm glad to hear that!

So making our own separate site for AI sloppin' isn't good enough? They want our separate space taken down too?

why lmao

I'm willing to bet it's more pressure from payment processors, like most stupid bullshit decisions

Furries and drama inseparable.

Hosting sites are a dime a dozen.

Literally just needs someone to throw money at it. That sadly ain't me. Not one of the suspiciously wealthy types.

Anyways.. the gatekeepers can never win. Time is against them.

Clankers get me closer to my dream of being adjacent to anthropomorphic things. It's nothing but deplorable that someone else feels compelled to take away from me something that is not harming them outside of their warped perceptions, and desire to suppress creativity and human advancement.

Nothing can stop what is to come. AI is here to stay. All they are doing is displaying their hate and becoming that which they them selves actively despise, yet cannot see it.

It will be a sad sad day when this site finally goes offline... Thanks to the admin team, janitors, and directors for the great last few years.

Moderation could be quite strict, but it resulted in only the highest quality of each technological leap being posted. It's been awesome seeing the progression of technology, first image generation getting cleaner, then more characters and detail, improved realism, and more recently video. Truly a journey, to say the least.

There are so many directors that I've fallen in love with (just look at my favs lmao), and knowing I'll lose so many of them really sucks. Might have to send some desperate DMs and comb through sources to follow everyone I can...

This really sucks, man... I understand the GenAI hate, but it's not going to go away. Just let us appreciate our AI furry guys and gals here...

dogwalker said:
It's not E6ai, but over 1400 users and About 150 posts/day seems far from dead to me.

Interactions are very low on the website, people only link their X accounts for the auto importer and call it a day.

Beerwolf

Privileged

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months...
/snip

Just when the lights went out, a new light emerged from the dark, ready to fill the void and keep everyone coming.

kaleth said:
IIRC the original announcement was a copy/paste of e621's. Staff felt it was inappropriate as a last message to our user base, we wished our last message to you to be one coming from us.

Thanks for that, the original message reads very mean and defensive like they didn't found this site in the first place!

I thank all the admins and moderator that gave their free labor to make this place great.

The entire issue for Bad Dragon is about bsky/twitter outrage vortex being directed here and causing artists to go DNP on e621. This place is easy to throw under the bus considering how small the user base is. It's a little ridiculous honestly, you don't see or hear about the posts here if you don't go deliberately looking for them, who was being hurt here? This is just fellow furries having a fun time with local models for our own enjoyment...

slackerinpainter said:
Interactions are very low on the website, people only link their X accounts for the auto importer and call it a day.

Not all of us, you won't find anything from me on X. And I have to think it has the chance to be more active now. I have to go through and import my gallery from here, as I wanted people to be interested if they looked me up on one or the other.

I'm sad to see e6ai go, as much as it frustrated me when I first started posting; the mods here gave me real reason and direction to improve and develop.

That's pretty damn sad news. I don't understand why to do this to this site, because it exists absolutely independently of e621.net . It will be sad to lose a bunch of talented AI artists. I also started by laying out raw AI art, but then I started doing serious post-processing in PS and I don't see any other options for myself except how to post-process images with high quality. And this is not to hide the fact that the image was made with the help of AI, but so that other people get maximum pleasure from viewing the work and nothing superfluous catches their eye. It's really sad.
And yes, despite the fact that AI works are being laid out here, the administration is very strict about the quality of these works, which I can't help but praise. They're really good.

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI. Right now it's fully functional, but is still missing a few things, so I won't reveal its name just yet. I plan to finish the most important things in the next few days, so the site should be ready for the user registration then.

Key highlights:
- website runs on the Philomena engine (like Derpibooru, Tantabus, Furbooru)
- over 130 000 posts from e6ai are already on the website, with tags and descriptions intact. I hope to import the rest of the posts in the next few days.
- e6ai votes/favs migration will be able to be done with a user-side script
- pretty much the same content policy as in e6ai
- robust filtering system - users can create custom filters and easily switch between them
- more relaxed policy - minor generation errors will be tagged, so they can be filtered out, if needed
- images with major generation errors might still be reported and deleted
- current image limit is 10 images per 24 hours, to prevent spam

I will return with more details in a few days, once the website is ready.

This is good news! Many people, including me, would be very grateful to you. Many people would like to find an alternative place to post their work. Good luck with the website!

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

BTW, for those wanting to archive things, I _think_ I have everything from #66000 to present, definitely everything in the past year, and X-15000 as well, most everything archived as it happened so comments may or may not be present. Contact privately - that may save some folks scrape time.

See you all around elsewhere in the electron stream.

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI. Right now it's fully functional, but is still missing a few things, so I won't reveal its name just yet. I plan to finish the most important things in the next few days, so the site should be ready for the user registration then.

Key highlights:
- website runs on the Philomena engine (like Derpibooru, Tantabus, Furbooru)
- over 130 000 posts from e6ai are already on the website, with tags and descriptions intact. I hope to import the rest of the posts in the next few days.
- e6ai votes/favs migration will be able to be done with a user-side script
- "quick tags" box and an optional autotagger for swift tagging
- pretty much the same content policy as in e6ai
- robust filtering system - users can create custom filters and easily switch between them
- more relaxed policy - minor generation errors will be tagged, so they can be filtered out, if needed
- images with major generation errors might still be reported and deleted
- current image limit is 10 images per 24 hours, to prevent spam

I will return with more details in a few days, once the website is ready.

Would like a direct-message update if possible... yadda yadda. Glad someone is willing to pick up the torch.

This is depressing news. Ever since I first stumbled upon this website back in 2023, I made sure to visit it every day, since the furry art on here appealed to me far more than the one on e621.

I truly hope that tyto4tme4l's replacement website will allow the awesome community to carry on! I'll definitely be there day one!

ocillet said:
Damn...

Rather unfortunate given how curated and well maintained this site is over the alternatives. The "to be updated" edit has me hoping maybe they're considering another option. The models currently coming out are getting so much better, and I felt like we were entering a new big step, especially in the video category with H3.

I hope they do reconsider and see how many here support this site for what it is.

That new step forward may be the step too far considering their penchant for avoiding anything that someone might mistake for a photograph. Suffice it to say that concept reads to me as "we want it to look good, but not too good".

Hi! Can anyone tell me how much time do I have to save stuff from Favorites until the website shuts down?

smaugthedragon said:
The entire issue for Bad Dragon is about bsky/twitter outrage vortex being directed here and causing artists to go DNP on e621.

Sadly that's not true. Nobody over there was okay with e6ai existing. The whole 621 team had been bothering Bad Dragon for years to shut it down, and the backlash and DNP boycott was what made upper management listen to their demands. They never wanted to share a space with us however separated.

yorick said:
Hi! Can anyone tell me how much time do I have to save stuff from Favorites until the website shuts down?

November 13th

I just hope no one pulls their work prematurely before people have a chance to save it. I know I have some favorites I couldn't bear to lose.

fourtyone said:
I just hope no one pulls their work prematurely before people have a chance to save it. I know I have some favorites I couldn't bear to lose.

I don't think anyone will bother.

Absolutely disappointed and disgusted by this decision. All of that because some of the usual crybabies whined on social network (I saw the post accusing E621 to allow E6Ai to steal work to make better ai, it's bullshit). E6ai allowed me to find some excellent animation, or "kinky stuff" that is a rarity/or uploaded once every few weeks on E621 (especially regarding stuff involving human with pokemon or dragon and stuff). Dang it, I hope to find other sites as clear as E6ai was.

Immense thank you to all the staff here that helped it stay alive, and to all the artist/animators that posted on a daily basis for the daily dose of fap ^^. Hope to find you on the next big ai fury prOn site.

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI. Right now it's fully functional, but is still missing a few things, so I won't reveal its name just yet. I plan to finish the most important things in the next few days, so the site should be ready for the user registration then.

Key highlights:
- website runs on the Philomena engine (like Derpibooru, Tantabus, Furbooru)
- over 130 000 posts from e6ai are already on the website, with tags and descriptions intact. I hope to import the rest of the posts in the next few days.
- e6ai votes/favs migration will be able to be done with a user-side script
- "quick tags" box and an optional autotagger for swift tagging
- anonymous posting option
- pretty much the same content policy as in e6ai
- robust filtering system - users can create custom filters and easily switch between them
- more relaxed quality policy - minor generation errors will be tagged, so they can be filtered out, if needed
- images with major generation errors might still be reported and deleted
- current image limit is 10 images per 24 hours, to prevent spam

I will return with more details in a few days, once the website is ready.

Giga thanks for the work. Do you have any socials where we can follow you to be kept updated?

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI. Right now it's fully functional, but is still missing a few things, so I won't reveal its name just yet. I plan to finish the most important things in the next few days, so the site should be ready for the user registration then.

What about comments and pfps? Another important part of the community I don't want to lose.

Hey folks, I made this script for those of you wishing to download a bunch of images.

https://hastebin.com/share/uhebicavag.php

Just paste it into a powershell window in the directory you want the images saved and give your tags (fav:<yourusername> will get all your favorites, works with normal e6ai search query syntax as well.)

If you have a lot of favorites, it will take quite some time to download. The script intentionally does not download images in parallel to be nice to the e6ai servers.

Obligatory DON'T RUN RANDOM POWERSHELL SCRIPTS ON YOUR COMPUTER IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO. If you aren't scripting savvy, throw it into an LLM or even google AI search and ask if it is safe.

coeurdepatate said:
Giga thanks for the work. Do you have any socials where we can follow you to be kept updated?

Um, not really? DeviantArt, I guess? You could message me on Derpibooru or Tantabus. I'm also on Discord with the same nickname (my DMs should be open), but I probably won't have much time to give regular updates.

In any case, my links are here:
https://e6ai.net/directors/86

memecanxd said:
What about comments and pfps? Another important part of the community I don't want to lose.

I'm currently not importing comments. I might look into it, though.
By "pfps" you mean profile pictures? My website has customizable avatars - any image can be used.

yamadorux said:
the only "acceptable" way out is to get a better-paying job.

Frankly, they can just start using AI as well to make their workflow faster and easier. If not fully then at least to cut on some corners

kibermozgai said:
Frankly, they can just start using AI as well to make their workflow faster and easier. If not fully then at least to cut on some corners

I was saying the only acceptable path in the eyes of artists. Cause most here took the AI route.

yorick said:
Hi! Can anyone tell me how much time do I have to save stuff from Favorites until the website shuts down?

Messages say it goes dark Nov. 13

zheneric said:
There are so many directors that I've fallen in love with (just look at my favs lmao), and knowing I'll lose so many of them really sucks. Might have to send some desperate DMs and comb through sources to follow everyone I can...

Download all your favorite stuff. You'll likely never see some of it again.

I'm gutted, I really love this place, as much as leaving positive comments under the very good work of all the directors that made this archive so special and awesome.
I hope a huge majority of our regular members will join the Discord and continue to post their gens to the new places we will go to.
Much love to everyone! The haters maybe won that one, but we can still make a new project, without the help of those cowards of BD.
So glad I never bought anything from them ever...

asscas

Former Staff

:/

It's been a wild ride. Jelloponies deserves better, but I know the BD team bends at the whim of the furry community, which is by and large a bunch of insane maniacs who don't agree with themselves from one day to the next.

This blows. Some of the stuff here has been the best use of generative AI... ...anywhere. I have seen some of you get offers from companies to make their art for them. During my short stint (and even shorter time as a mod, less then 8 hours lmao), I really wanted to see some of you go places. By and large, the quality AI furry tends to put out just MOGS the rest, whether its weebs or 3d. No one does it better.

There's always Deviantart, and it's been fun posting there. I hope everyone flocks over there because imo they are really taking the right step to embrace AI, maybe a little bit too much.

Best cheers.

kishin said:
I hope a huge majority of our regular members will join the Discord

What is the Discord? I never paid attention to where I can find this info since I almost never join Discord servers. I might as well join this one if for no other reason than to be kept up to date on if or where there will ever be a replacement for e6ai.

hal_greaves said:
to be updated

when will it be updated?

Heard you having the draft from our staff?
24h is a bit much when we only have until 13. nov

Man, this sucks, it hasn't even been 2 months since I started posting here. This is one of things that makes me not interact with most people in the furry fandom; I've been a furry for nearly 20 years and there's always some sort of dumb drama going on.

The absolute irony of it all is that furries were always the "we're in our corner, stop coming over here to bully us if you don't like us, just let us do our silly animal drawings", and now a portion of the fandom is doing that exact same thing just because the other portion likes AI images.

I don't want to be only X, so I guess I'll have to check out Pawbooru and get around to figuring out deviantArt, and maybe something like Pixiv. All of them seem inferior, though, since they're not as strict with the quality.

I thought that would be kind of annoying here, but it turned out that I actually like that the mods/janitors point out flaws to fix. It actually makes me value the stuff I gen more, since it has more effort put into it and even made me improve my ComfyUI workflows to tweak stuff more easily.

The tagging is also great. Some implications that I expected didn't exist, but a lot that I didn't expect were already set up, so that helped a lot when uploading stuff. It also blows the tagging on R34 out of the water, at least when it comes to searching stuff. Dunno about uploading, since I'm not putting my stuff there because they don't allow signature watermarks on AI images -.-

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI.

[snip]

I will return with more details in a few days, once the website is ready.

This is great, and I'll follow your links to see when you announce it! With luck, maybe some of the mods and janitors from here will help out. Would be kinda funny if it became e6ai with a lot of the same users and just a different name (and more QoL stuff) :P

A few questions, though:

"- e6ai votes/favs migration will be able to be done with a user-side script"
Will this work even if e6ai goes down? Or does it need the website online?

"- more relaxed quality policy - minor generation errors will be tagged, so they can be filtered out, if needed
- images with major generation errors might still be reported and deleted"
For this, will the images be replaceable like on here, either through a thread where you submit the corrected ones or with a Discord bot similar to what e6ai has atm?

tyto4tme4l said:
Hi everyone. I didn't want to reveal it prematurely, but this announcement kind of forced my hand.

For the past two months, I've been working on a new booru for furry/scalie artwork created with the use of AI. Right now it's fully functional, but is still missing a few things, so I won't reveal its name just yet. I plan to finish the most important things in the next few days, so the site should be ready for the user registration then.

Key highlights:
- website runs on the Philomena engine (like Derpibooru, Tantabus, Furbooru)
- over 130 000 posts from e6ai are already on the website, with tags and descriptions intact. I hope to import the rest of the posts in the next few days.
- e6ai votes/favs migration will be able to be done with a user-side script
- "quick tags" box and an optional autotagger for swift tagging
- anonymous posting option
- pretty much the same content policy as in e6ai
- robust filtering system - users can create custom filters and easily switch between them
- more relaxed quality policy - minor generation errors will be tagged, so they can be filtered out, if needed
- images with major generation errors might still be reported and deleted
- current image limit is 10 images per 24 hours, to prevent spam

I will return with more details in a few days, once the website is ready.

How will we find this site if it doesn't go up before e6ai shuts down?

Peche

Member

fourtyone said:
How will we find this site if it doesn't go up before e6ai shuts down?

I was thinking the same thing...

fourtyone said:
How will we find this site if it doesn't go up before e6ai shuts down?

discord seems the best place to be notified. there's almost 2000 members on the server already so im sure news would spread quickly

ollie_ai said:
This is one of things that makes me not interact with most people in the furry fandom; I've been a furry for nearly 20 years and there's always some sort of dumb drama going on.

This has been my exact experience as well and I've been a furry for even longer. It is why I mostly keep to myself, rarely even posting. I've always wanted to try and make friends within this community, to hang out with like minded individuals. But seeing how things almost always turn into some kind of pointless drama the few times I have tried, I talk myself out of even trying any more.

Gonna miss this place. Other similar websites all feel inferior for one reason or another.

asscas said:
By and large, the quality AI furry tends to put out just MOGS the rest, whether its weebs or 3d. No one does it better.
Best cheers.

This is the cold hard truth. I've chosen to embrace AI simply due to the fact that it's inevitable and due to the absolutely incredible pieces I've seen here. I haven't even been to E621 in like 2 years. This is the only place that has strict quality control and that's something I've desired for a long time.

If you look at the earliest submissions to this site, a lot of it does not look good. "AI slop" is a meme for a reason. But that has dramatically changed. Much of the content we're seeing now is excellent.

Artists will always have a place in my heart, but when it comes to quality content, AI is more than skyrocketing. Especially when it comes to animated content. We've had so many years of terrible animated content with an extremely small margin of decent content from various artists.

As a former artist, I really don't care. All of furry content is about the expression of this fandom, regardless of how it's created. We have so many passionate directors with undeniably excellent content here. 10/10 top shelf premium content. For free. And it was curated better than anywhere else here.

flowersylveon said:
civitai and r34 unless someone vibe codes a booru like e6ai or just takes their source code and starts to host one website

Or spin up a Philomena instance.

The same site that thrives on straight up pedophilic bullshit is trying to lecture people what's right and what's wrong? Such garbage. I really hope someone finds a way to separate this site from BD.

ollie_ai said:

"- e6ai votes/favs migration will be able to be done with a user-side script"
Will this work even if e6ai goes down? Or does it need the website online?

This should work with the read-only mode. Obviously it won't work when e6ai gets completely shut down, but I hope to have my site more-or less ready for user registration in a few days, way before November 13.

ollie_ai said:

"- more relaxed quality policy - minor generation errors will be tagged, so they can be filtered out, if needed
- images with major generation errors might still be reported and deleted"
For this, will the images be replaceable like on here, either through a thread where you submit the corrected ones or with a Discord bot similar to what e6ai has atm?

A new image can be uploaded and the old one can be reported as a duplicate, then merged by the site staff. It can also be replaced manually by the site staff, if necessary.

Fourtyone said:

How will we find this site if it doesn't go up before e6ai shuts down?

If this forum shuts down before my site is ready, I'll probably make an announcement on e6ai's Discord, or my DeviantArt page. Still, I don't think this will be necessary, as long as this forum stays up for the next 4-5 days.

Man... I always thought that the connection to e621 was spotty, and basically a car crash waiting to happen, because of course having an AI containment leper village even vaguely affiliated with your supposed sanctum of art preservation could reflect badly on you.
Especially when you take into account that, inevitably, some dumbass will at some point feel obligated to start a pitchfork mob based on a poor understanding of the exact connection between the two and the nature of e6ai (like, apparently, thinking it has an art generator that directly feeds off e621), leading to a mass excursion of misinformed artists which will then inevitably force Dragonfruit's hand because now you're touching the money. That's just the internet. Kind of a miracle it took this long for someone to wake the sleeping dog.

Still, I never expected it to go south this suddenly. :/ Like, shit, I'm happy there's at least a ten-day mercy period to save your favs before the server goes out, but the upload function has already been disabled (also wondering if that's really neccessary, I was busy working on some stuff I could've uploaded so people could at least see it for a few days, lol). It's effectively dead right this instant.

This SUCKS.

Big thanks to everyone involved in making this place such a nice community over the past few years, and such a good space for quality gens that show AI smut can be more than soulless trash! You're awesome. And I can only hope we're able to find or eventually found a replacement without the financial backing BD provided. Hosting ain't cheap, especially with video gen getting more prevalent.

It's pretty annoying having to read some of those smug comments over on e621 from antis repeatedly going "hurrrr just go to one of the 86 other image galleries OK with AI, what's your problem", who for some reason just aren't able to understand that I go to e6ai over rule34.xxx for the EXACT same reason they go to e621: the others fucking blow.

You know... zero quality control (this place can be a bit much but holy crap am I glad we have a team of dedicated people curating), no approachable staff, or barely any modding at all leading to endless low-effort creep spam (R34 being the worst in this regard), bare ass tagging with no enforcement, let alone an active aliasing/implicating project, a search engine that straight up doesn't work (Civit), no furry focus or a plain ban on many furry-related subjects, or insane workflow authentication requirements that heavily encourage promptslop (Inkbunny).

And pretty much no other booru has a sense of community with an active forum and Discord and all that, which must sound familiar to them. In short, there IS no 1:1 alternative to e6ai to flee to, we're singular.

Man, could they at least have given us a month, for someone smarter than me to get something up and running? I wish tyto4tme4l the best of luck in their endeavor, hope it leads somewhere. If not, godspeed to whoever is willing to try.

Updated

squish2 said:
This has been my exact experience as well and I've been a furry for even longer. It is why I mostly keep to myself, rarely even posting. I've always wanted to try and make friends within this community, to hang out with like minded individuals. But seeing how things almost always turn into some kind of pointless drama the few times I have tried, I talk myself out of even trying any more.

Gonna miss this place. Other similar websites all feel inferior for one reason or another.

Haha, dang, here I was thinking I could flex my vintage-ness :B And yeah, even before I started posting on here, I had a look through other options and there was always something that made me go "Mmm, I'll skip this one".

tyto4tme4l said:
This should work with the read-only mode. Obviously it won't work when e6ai gets completely shut down, but I hope to have my site more-or less ready for user registration in a few days, way before November 13.

A new image can be uploaded and the old one can be reported as a duplicate, then merged by the site staff. It can also be replaced manually by the site staff, if necessary.

If this forum shuts down before my site is ready, I'll probably make an announcement on e6ai's Discord, or my DeviantArt page. Still, I don't think this will be necessary, as long as this forum stays up for the next 4-5 days.

I just noticed my first question was the same thing with different phrasing, I guess I'm more tired than I thought. I meant it as in "does it need to be online, or do you somehow have a backup for the votes/faves"... which also is a silly question, now that I think about it, since it'd probably require access to account info from the database itself :P

Either way, good to know that it might be ready before this one goes down!

I don’t want to bury the site ahead of time, but even less do I want to miss the chance to leave this post if the topic gets closed before the site itself does.

When the AI boom first began, I was desperately searching for a place dedicated specifically to furry AI art. You can imagine my joy when I learned that e621 had created an alternative site just for that.
The familiar interface, the convenient in usability, the well-known name — it was a perfect spot! As soon as AI reached a decent level of quality and six-fingered hands stopped being the norm, the staff quickly adapted the rules. They cleaned the site of lazy, crooked low-effort posts (by a new norms I mean, thanks for letting all that was posted before stay. It's still a history we made) while carefully preserving balance and avoiding suffocating, overly strict regulations. The content rose to the level of the main site, but within its own niche.
Separating the two sites was a brilliant idea! It protected those willing to experiment from the technophobes, and kept traditional artists away from a theme they hated, allowing both communities to exist in relative peace. At the same time, it kept everything that made the original site good. Some people saw this as being exiled to a separate pen. I saw it as a chance to quietly do what we love without receiving hostility — and without creating hostility for others simply by existing. I still dream about the day AI art would live hand in hand with other art right on the main platform, separated only by mere tag

I was never good at drawing. I don’t even understand the basic stuff like perspective or shadows. I’m purely a tech guy — I can understand only formulas and mathematics. The only close to somewhat artistic skill I ever had was editing: fixing mistakes, making small alts. That’s exactly why generative AI fascinated me so much. It did the base for me to improve, and more than that — I could understand what it was doing, how to influence it, and how to correct its errors. I can’t create something from absolute zero, but I can see what’s wrong with what’s in front of me and fix it. Only with help of an AI buddy I was able to make something truly unique.
But this site is what finally pushed me to stop merely studying generative AI and playing with image editing software, and to risk posting publicly. For a lazy person like me, for someone who creates anything only once in a century, only when the desire to share something both personal and “something people might actually like” becomes strong enough — that place was especially valuable. Here my works wouldn’t get lost among absolute garbage, nor would they sit in the shadow of far more talented people who had already made a name for themselves and completely outshone a no-name like me. The chance to appear in the same pool of new posts as more skilled creators, on a beloved platform, was one of the things that finally gave me the push to stop only saving and start sharing as well. It’s hard to fully put into words how dear this site was to me — both as someone who appreciates the work of others, and as someone making a timid attempt to step into the light and become part of that amazing community.

To all the staff of this site:
Thank you for the work you put into maintaining quality, which made every piece feel special.
Thank you for the opportunity to try myself at something new.
Thank you for the constructive criticism and the chance to safely correct mistakes. Even a small feature like being able to restore an image to the same url and keeping it in the favorites list helped people not lose their beloved arts.

To the community and the AI directors:
Thank you for your works.
Thank you for the friendliness and the willingness to share knowledge.
Thank you for the fact that, through your efforts, the future is being created.

I’m old enough to remember the times when digital artists were also driven out by those who only used paints and pencils. It’s a cycle that repeats every time a new technology appears. I’ve already accepted this as inevitable — just as I’ve accepted that good things still remain, no matter how much some people hate them. And this community here gave me a strong vibe of old small geeky clubs for modern outcasts (and I meant to say that word with pride). That kind of atmosphere that I missed for a long, long time. Somewhere inside me still hope that the decision to shut the site down will be reversed… or that one day it will come back. But if not, at least I don’t want my words to go unsaid. Thank you for everything, guys. And thank you for reading this.

tyto4tme4l said:
Um, not really? DeviantArt, I guess? You could message me on Derpibooru or Tantabus. I'm also on Discord with the same nickname (my DMs should be open), but I probably won't have much time to give regular updates.

In any case, my links are here:
https://e6ai.net/directors/86

I'm currently not importing comments. I might look into it, though.
By "pfps" you mean profile pictures? My website has customizable avatars - any image can be used.

Noted.Tyty

publiq said:
Or spin up a Philomena instance.

...the site is open source, just like e621. It's linked at the bottom of every page in the version number. You don't need to make things complicated.

The site & (most of) its data is publicly available. The barrier to creating your own is hosting infrastructure/costs & moderation.

fourtyone said:
What I want to know is what exactly is Dragonfruit's opinion on all this?

Their opinion is that some random losers on bluesky complained and its better to fold to random people on social media than to the actual users.

temper said:
Their opinion is that some random losers on bluesky complained and its better to fold to random people on social media than to the actual users.

When your core philosophy is "complaints are horrible - avoid all complaints"... this is what happens.

E621 thread is truly something.

To quote Rush:

Quick to judge, quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand

yamadorux said:
God I wish this wasn't the case. I have no quarrel showing my prompts as I've never used an artist tag. But the requirements pushing out Novel is a huge blow. They could have just as easily required the meta data be in the description as well as website. Something. Anything would have been preferred than, "local generators only".

What does NovelAI does that open-weight models don't? I thought it's dead.

The requirement for open-weight models on Inkbunny is both for ideological (sharing of knowledge) and moderation (no way to verify otherwise) purposes. Commercial services built on top of open tools and models are kinda allowed as long as the output is verifiable locally.

autobot said:
What does NovelAI does that open-weight models don't? I thought it's dead.

The requirement for open-weight models on Inkbunny is both for ideological (sharing of knowledge) and moderation (no way to verify otherwise) purposes. Commercial services built on top of open tools and models are kinda allowed as long as the output is verifiable locally.


For all AI-generated or AI-assisted content: You must not post work using tools or services that do not make their code and models freely available for others to reuse
This includes services such as Midjourney, NovelAI, GPT, Copilot and Gemini – if you don't know if it's based on a proprietary model, it probably is

This line is in their TOS

Unless something has changed and I don't know about it. This is where we are at ATM

flowersylveon said:
civitai and r34 unless someone vibe codes a booru like e6ai or just takes their source code and starts to host one website

You won't believe it but pawbooru is already a thing

And here I was looking forward to having the time to gen silly donks again soon. For all that I understand the position some artists take on AI (being an artist myself, who uses ai for silly donks because it's fun), I nevertheless don't agree with them and I find the overt hostility a little concerning. I'm no threat to a genuinely competent artist. The demand for artisanal art, to coin a phrase, will never go away. AI is another tool in the arsenal.

But enough manifestos. I'll miss this place, as little time as I've spent here. I hope a replacement arrives sooner rather than later.

holy rugpull batman lmaooo

I mean, people over regular e6 seems to think that since this site is going down, AI shit is NO MORE. Absolute bonkers lmao

People are still gonna gen, models will still get better, artists will still be used in training models, and they're not gonna stop, that's what'll drive them crazy

If you're a watcher, most creators here post somewhere else aswell (telegram, twitter etc), just check their pages.

If you're a creator, lmao keep creating and let them seethe.

God I love genning slop

delken said:
holy rugpull batman lmaooo

I mean, people over regular e6 seems to think that since this site is going down, AI shit is NO MORE. Absolute bonkers lmao

People are still gonna gen, models will still get better, artists will still be used in training models, and they're not gonna stop, that's what'll drive them crazy

If you're a watcher, most creators here post somewhere else aswell (telegram, twitter etc), just check their pages.

If you're a creator, lmao keep creating and let them seethe.

God I love genning slop

I'm a writer by trade (among other things) and someone asked me if I was worried about AI taking my job. I answered that if they were looking for a product description, sure. But if they wanted someone to describe a scene in logical, picturesque detail... naw. Humans created language and still know how to manipulate it correctly. Visual media is similar... I can't remember how often I chuckle at some quirk of coding that doesn't look right (mostly animal genitalia, because I've worked with so many species)... and openly laugh occasionally at the mods here dinging something for 'mistaken for a photograph' reasons when anyone with a functioning brain would know the difference right off. (This says just how much of society doesn't have fully functional cerebral mass, though... That's a whole different argument.)

While your stuff wasn't always my flavor, it's still good to see it, and hopefully at the next incarnation you'll be there, too. Hopefully that has less issue with photorealism and other things.

dfY6C

Privileged

aacafah said:
...the site is open source, just like e621. It's linked at the bottom of every page in the version number. You don't need to make things complicated.

The site & (most of) its data is publicly available. The barrier to creating your own is hosting infrastructure/costs & moderation.

Anyone wanting to resurrect e6ai should be looking at this comment. The smooth usability and familiarity of this site is what it is because of the entire framework it runs on. The code is open-source like Aacafah says, and no one needs to feel like shying away from using it just because it's associated with e621. The fast responsiveness and usability of the site, a robust tagging system that makes searchability so much better than other sites, blacklisting, etc. all built from this. This site is a dream to use compared to other AI sites and trying to re-do everything in a completely different framework feels so unnecessary. Along with that, somewhat more external factors like quality guidelines shouldn't even be changed either. I've already seen it suggested that whatever comes next should allow basic AI errors like 6-fingered hands which goes against everything e6ai stood for in terms of emphasizing quality. That's not the direction e6ai deserves. That's not what I consider a true successor to this community.

For what it's worth, the current staff are asking users in the Discord server for new names to call this community, now that "e6ai" won't be able to be used. This doesn't mean a site is necessarily happening from them anytime soon (idk, probably just for the Discord for now), but it does mean there's a potential "official" future.

I normally don't present opinions that could be deemed controversial by some, but I say this because I want nothing but the best for this community going forward and I want whatever transitional period we get to be as smooth as it could possibly be.

Man that's a real shame. I really enjoyed posting here and being part of the community. Lotsa friendly folks plus I do heavily appreciate the work of the the moderation and janitors; helped me be more mindful about my work and improve in quality by quite a bit.

Ah well. Something ends, something begins. I'm hoping to find some place to start over again.
Thank you everyone for all the hard work that went into this project and all the members of the community that have been sharing, creating, commenting editing and curating. I'll really miss this place.

Was a fun ride though, even though it was short.

So I wanted to step in here and actually be helpful to some people with concerns. I as well as some others have started talks with the crew about continuing this site. (I will not say more just know that others with the money and time are in fact interested in keeping it going. As to if that will happen, shrug)

Also just in the interest of being transparent. I am in fact one of the mods of pawbooru.org and would like to clear a few things up around some statements that have been made.

1. We have a more lax policy as to what can be posted because we think that "art is art". Its as simple as that. We do not allow spamming and what is clearly (excuse my phrasing) "trash" content. But we do accept that some times an image can look nice despite minor flaws.
2. Some people have complained about how vague some things are. In our opinion it is better to be vague than over reaching and strict. We trust our crew to be reasonable and have an internal requirement to actually review things with the team before acting. (unless it is very clearly something that needs to be acted on ala csam, deep fakes, etc) We feel this lets people have more room to flex and show what they can do without having to bring down the heavy hammer over what are minor things just because they fall into a broad category or over reaching rule.
3. Yes we allow more content than just furry. We have always disliked that the furry community and anime/general art communities are so counter to each other. We want peace, we want a place for it all. And not a danbooru style "yeah we have some of that furry stuff, its in a pile over their" but rather an actual place where everyone is a first class citizen furry and anime. AI and traditional art. Images and video. We do not needlessly discriminate.
4. Yes the site is a bit of a mess. Things have been happening slowly to see what we really want to end up at. We take suggestions and act on them quickly to see if what comes out is what we like. We have a couple of "real" devs that will be entering the project soon:tm: to get things cleaned up and running smexy.
5. Yes we do allow content that some of you find too spicy. That is ok. We accept that we might not be for everyone. But we are aiming to be an alternative at scale.

I am sure some of you are wanting to know how I can be so pro pb and also want to save e6ai. My statement is as follows. We don't have to see others fall to lift our selves up. I like pawbooru because it feels like the mods are less willing to bend the knee. But I respect that the e6ai staff have built something amazing and vibrant. So given the chance to extend a hand to help I 100% will jump to do so. I want more, not less.

Now even tho I do want to save this place or even if not me someone. I do have to do my shill.
We have:
Twitter/x integration.
Easy drag and drop uploads.
Content migration from e6ai.net to pawbooru.org
Active mods.
Paid (yes real money) contests.
and just a bunch of good people.