Topic: question about what type of Ai is allowed here

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BorkAi

Member

Alright so today I learned that an Ai animation that is posted here that is based of a traditional drawing is not allowed, I made an animation that starts off with an image i own and paid for and have permission to put into Ai, but since the animation is not 100% created in Ai it is deemed not allowed to post. My question is this...

If i trained a Ai on a specific character using that characters art, and then post generated animations that are based on that trained data, does that break the posting rules? I have in my gallery 1 animation left since the rest have been blocked for what are imo BS reasons.

So to break it down further. are we only allowed to post ai generated stuff here that is 100% ai generated, it cannot be based off of or trained from a traditional art piece do i have that right? why is the animation of the milk shooting chimera ok? its based on a bunch of traditional images of the character.

Cannot post the animations here because the ai art posted here cannot be based off a drawing, but i cannot post the animations on e621 either because they only allow ai generated backgrounds and nothing else.

KalethOrebiter

Member

borkai said:
Alright so today I learned that an Ai animation that is posted here that is based of a traditional drawing is not allowed,

The deletion reason is that there is Trace of another artist's work: No mention of being deleted for using a trad artwork as a base.

There is no rule that state you can't post AI generated video of a trad artwork.

BorkAi

Member

kalethorebiter said:
The deletion reason is that there is Trace of another artist's work: No mention of being deleted for using a trad artwork as a base.

There is no rule that state you can't post AI generated video of a trad artwork.

it may not mention that. but that is why it was deleted i spoke with the mod and they pointed to the upload rules that state:

Traditional artworks: Human-created art is not permitted.
Mixed creations where a human has edited the AI art is allowed.

so why was my animation removed? i used Image 2 video to create it. the img that was used is a traditional drawing, but the rest of the frames in the animation are all generated from that 1 frame.

i was told this by the moderator

"While we appreciate the upload, our site only allows AI-generated artwork. Since the piece you uploaded was originally traditional art that was later animated or modified with AI, it falls outside our content scope.
Even if you purchased the original artwork, we still have to stick to our submission guidelines to keep things consistent across the site."

so if your ai image is not 100% ai, you cannot post it ? does this count for trained generations? does this mean i cannot post any animation i make?

KalethOrebiter

Member

borkai said:
i was told this by the moderator

Well Jelloponies is e6ai lead admin, so you have it right from the highest authority. I'm pretty sure an addendum to the rules is incoming to reflect the decision made in your case.

BorkAi

Member

kalethorebiter said:
Well Jelloponies is e6ai lead admin, so you have it right from the highest authority. I'm pretty sure an addendum to the rules is incoming to reflect the decision made in your case.

ohh boy im causing changes, all because i wanted to make a stupid lil lewd animation lawl

BorkAi

Member

kalethorebiter said:
Your contribution to the site is appreciated

Thanks, im just trying to make lil lewd animations and post them. tons of people love them , many people ive shown these lil animations too tell me they are hot and I ask them to tell me if its stupid or dumb or looks like slop, and they say no. So i am confident in my stupid lil animations.

and it still begs the question. whats teh different between an img2video generation. and a trained checkpoint generation. both are originated from traditional artwork. so what does that mean? why is one ok and not the other. is it because one you cannot "see" the traditional work? if i remove the very first frame from my img2video generation. does that make it "100% ai generated" now because you cannot "see" the first frame of the animation that is the "traditional artwork frame"

you can see how this is getting real stupid real quick

isnt every single image posted on this site technically derived from traditional artwork, so why does img2video generation get the shaft?

Updated

anonymous director

Janitor

Turning someone’s traditional art into any kind of AI video or img2img is not allowed, period. This has ALWAYS been the case — it’s just still worded as “tracing.” This rule does not care for who the owner or creator is, either or will get the image removed.

What you’re confusing this with are LoRAs, which are a completely different topic and have no relation to what you’re bringing up.

Jelloponies

Admin

Rules state:

* Traditional artworks: Human-created art is not permitted.
**  Mixed creations where a human has edited the AI art is allowed.
* img2img of traditional artworks:: Human-created works processed through img2img that retain clearly identifiable elements of the original will be removed.

Since this seems to be causing confusion I added img2vid.

img2img/img2vid of traditional artworks:: Human-created works processed through img2img/img2vid that retain clearly identifiable elements of the original will be removed.