The bulk update request #86 has been rejected.

change category nintendo (10697) -> general

Reason: It was incorrectly changed in a BUR along with other correct franchises https://e6ai.net/forum_topics/299?page=1#forum_post_1098
Right now it's unnesesarily polluting the franchise category, where it simply doesn't belong ( nintendo is a COMPANY and NOT A FRANCHISE )

EDIT: The bulk update request #86 (forum #1738) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

technical-grid said:
The bulk update request #86 has been rejected.

change category nintendo (10697) -> general

Reason: It was incorrectly changed in a BUR along with other correct franchises https://e6ai.net/forum_topics/299?page=1#forum_post_1098
Right now it's unnesesarily polluting the franchise category, where it simply doesn't belong ( nintendo is a COMPANY and NOT A FRANCHISE )

Franchise is the replacement for the "copyright" category on e621 (that can't be used here due to legal reasons). And on e621 "nintendo" is copyright category. So imo it should stay franchise.

Playing on the technicality of the tag implications by what their name category is refered to

At this point its
Annoying
I get it at first when the whole discourse started but now it's just
Pointless

Both copyright and franchise is to mean one thing

IP
Or Intelectual Property
That's it

Or if you want the actual statement from e6 staff about said tag

Any recognizable brands and franchises (as well as the companies who own them) that can be identified through the use of their characters, settings, or other recognizable elements.
Parodies of copyrights are also tagged with the copyrights that a post is parodying. Specific holidays like Christmas, Easter, and Halloween are also given copyright status.

The real world is also a copyright tag, for what it's worth.

The name changed
Not their use

The bulk update request #86 (forum #1738) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

Well, I guess I exist over here now too.

I think moving Nintendo into the general category is splitting hairs about the intent behind that category. We have holidays and even mythology as copyrights over on the other site, and that's not technically accurate. Regardless of technicality or what we call it, it's just the purple "theme" category. I wish we had a better name for it, but alas we gotta work with what we got.

rainbow_dash said:
Well, I guess I exist over here now too.

I think moving Nintendo into the general category is splitting hairs about the intent behind that category. We have holidays and even mythology as copyrights over on the other site, and that's not technically accurate. Regardless of technicality or what we call it, it's just the purple "theme" category. I wish we had a better name for it, but alas we gotta work with what we got.

It is not. If the franchise type tag was never meant to be a replacement for the copyright tag, it would have been called a copyright tag and not a franchise. Just like there was a reason when the copyright was nuked when e6ai forked from e621, for legal reasons. I've already explained plenty of reasons why we shouldn't bring back forced implications of copyright tags and shoving everything in the franchise tag already in topic #300 and topic #385.

And there wasn't a single valid reason to force users to have copyright tags on their AI generated content. It's not useful. Nobody is actively using copyright tag to search for content. It fills up the top row of tags with a useless list of several misstagged franchise tags right at the top (check on e6ai, there could be like 6-10+ tags in copyright just because of the implication chain) and it's not useful at all as tags to generate AI content; it's useless for prompt crafting.

I thought this forum was about letting various people here express their opinion, but alas I found it it is not, because I can see BUR being rejected not even 24 hours after it's been proposed so only a handful of users even have to time to react before an admin makes the final call to approve or reject changes. It is not only unfair but inconsiderate to act in this way as a moderator in my opinion. Please consider reopening the discussion for the Nintendo tag being changed to general, because me along with a few other users I've spoken to on the Furry Diffusion Discord server also agree with me that not everything "copyright" should be called a franchise, because it could get out of hand.

Thank you.

So let me show y'all exactly what we have in the "franchise" type tag now because we absolutely need to add copyright tags as franchises according to some users; internet memes that almost no one heard about, game studios, shoes brand, car brand, supermarket...: terrified_noot_noot, insomniac_games, 2k_games, adidas, adidas_logo, costco. Those are all copyright tags repurposed as franchise type as of right now... Nobody cares about elevating the importance of those tags. Copyright tags are everywhere; Technically, everything is copyrightable... Paper tissues? Oh well, that's Kleenex brand of course. So why are some copyright tags allowed and not others? That makes no sense...

And how would you even prove it's that exact "brand" with AI art, especially since AI is very bad at replicating text/logos. I've seen characters tagged as a rule34 character that ultimately looks nothing like the real character that the uploader tagged them as: Wrong fur color/fur pattern, wrong eye color, size? To me, it just look like a generic character that the director happened to put in the prompt and the AI model either didn't have training data on that character or simply could not replicate their physical features. Half of rocket_raccoon character tag just depict a generic raccoon because the AI failed to replicate the monotone brown fur that this character has because of its heavy bias to generate furries with a different color belly fur. And with an implication chain, a barely recognizable character would automatically add copyright tags in the franchise category just because someone put that character name in the prompt and just pollute the database with several wrong tags.

Furthermore, copyright tags dont't respect the Tags What You See policy of any booru archive site. There has always been an exception for anything that isn't general, but I don't see any valid reason being discussed here or anywhere else on this forum for making an exception for copyright tags on art that is essentially not even subject to copyright law protection under many juridiction. Who exactly wants this system back? We haven't had copyright elevated nor franchise tags for 2 years already, so who exactly does it even serve to pollute the database?