Topic: Nazi Site Admins

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I'm really getting fucking fed up with this. The admins here repeatedly come up with this bullshit about "Artifacting or Color Anomalies" when I post pictures, no such artfiacting and no color anomalies exist anywhere in any picture I created or posted. One of them (https://e6ai.net/posts/100929) was even approved by someone else previously a long time ago then someone came in today and decided suddenly that it's not approved anymore and decided to delete it. The additional reason on that wone was "fingernails, twisted tail", the tail isn't even in the image, it's outside of the image and it's not even twisted, seriously.. what the fuck? It's "sources" is an imgur link to the picture, people can go see what it was there.

The other was a recent one I posted here: https://e6ai.net/posts/109519 No artifacting. No color anomalies. It's source is on inkbunny and anyone can see that from the sources link.

Honestly I have no idea what you people want here or why you do this to me personally but I think I'll just go delete my other posts here in a moment before some day a moderator will come by and decide those aren't allowed any more either (even though they've been up and approved for 2 months). Since that's apparently what you people do here: Approve something then months later delete it. I don't know what's wrong with you but you're really being insane with your "quality standards" here. There's nothing wrong what what I've created and posted. They all complied with the rules. It's just someone hates me personally. This is too far and too much bullshit at this point.

I made this a public thread because I want other people to see what you're all doing here and the way I am being targeted with this harassment. I'm sure you'll just delete this thread anyway but at least I can try. I'm never using this stupid site ever again after the way you're treating me.

Fortunately on Inkbunny there's none of this admin-nazi-stealth-deleting bullshit going on. Folks should try posting there instead.

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aquavixen said:
I'm really getting fucking fed up with this. The admins here repeatedly come up with this bullshit about "Artifacting or Color Anomalies" when I post pictures, no such artfiacting and no color anomalies exist anywhere in any picture I created or posted. One of them (https://e6ai.net/posts/100929) was even approved by someone else previously a long time ago then someone came in today and decided suddenly that it's not approved anymore and decided to delete it. The additional reason on that wone was "fingernails, twisted tail", the tail isn't even in the image, it's outside of the image and it's not even twisted, seriously.. what the fuck? It's "sources" is an imgur link to the picture, people can go see what it was there.

The other was a recent one I posted here: https://e6ai.net/posts/109519 No artifacting. No color anomalies. It's source is on inkbunny and anyone can see that from the sources link.

Honestly I have no idea what you people want here or why you do this to me personally but I think I'll just go delete my other posts here in a moment before some day a moderator will come by and decide those aren't allowed any more either (even though they've been up and approved for 2 months). Since that's apparently what you people do here: Approve something then months later delete it. I don't know what's wrong with you but you're really being insane with your "quality standards" here. There's nothing wrong what what I've created and posted. They all complied with the rules. It's just someone hates me personally. This is too far and too much bullshit at this point.

I made this a public thread because I want other people to see what you're all doing here and the way I am being targeted with this harassment. I'm sure you'll just delete this thread anyway but at least I can try. I'm never using this stupid site ever again after the way you're treating me.

Fortunately on Inkbunny there's none of this admin-nazi-stealth-deleting bullshit going on. Folks should try posting there instead.

I'm not staff, nor do I have any connection to them in any way, but "taking it personally" and name-calling is a completely wrong way to go about things.

I can relate to the way you're feeling, since I started uploading here again recently and I've had a whole bunch of my posts deleted. Instead of getting mad, I took the time to ask what the reasons meant if I didn't understand them.
I've learned that the reasons that get flagged should be taken as criticism - ways to improve on things - just as any "real" artist would. It's not a personal attack - the mods are just doing their job.

Seeming as I already threw myself into "nobody asked" territory, I looked at the pic at the source where you mentioned, and I took it upon myself to highlight the things with your image that are (most likely) the reasons it got flagged

sergalbutt said:
I'm not staff, nor do I have any connection to them in any way, but "taking it personally" and name-calling is a completely wrong way to go about things.

I can relate to the way you're feeling, since I started uploading here again recently and I've had a whole bunch of my posts deleted. Instead of getting mad, I took the time to ask what the reasons meant if I didn't understand them.
I've learned that the reasons that get flagged should be taken as criticism - ways to improve on things - just as any "real" artist would. It's not a personal attack - the mods are just doing their job.

Seeming as I already threw myself into "nobody asked" territory, I looked at the pic at the source where you mentioned, and I took it upon myself to highlight the things with your image that are (most likely) the reasons it got flagged

Well said! This is the most appropriate way with asking or dealing with situations such as this. Rather then get upset and rant about the deletions of your post, it's better to ask and confront the reasoning why it was deleted.

aquavixen said:
I'm really getting fucking fed up with this. The admins here repeatedly come up with this bullshit about "Artifacting or Color Anomalies" when I post pictures, no such artfiacting and no color anomalies exist anywhere in any picture I created or posted. One of them (https://e6ai.net/posts/100929) was even approved by someone else previously a long time ago then someone came in today and decided suddenly that it's not approved anymore and decided to delete it. The additional reason on that wone was "fingernails, twisted tail", the tail isn't even in the image, it's outside of the image and it's not even twisted, seriously.. what the fuck? It's "sources" is an imgur link to the picture, people can go see what it was there.

The other was a recent one I posted here: https://e6ai.net/posts/109519 No artifacting. No color anomalies. It's source is on inkbunny and anyone can see that from the sources link.

Honestly I have no idea what you people want here or why you do this to me personally but I think I'll just go delete my other posts here in a moment before some day a moderator will come by and decide those aren't allowed any more either (even though they've been up and approved for 2 months). Since that's apparently what you people do here: Approve something then months later delete it. I don't know what's wrong with you but you're really being insane with your "quality standards" here. There's nothing wrong what what I've created and posted. They all complied with the rules. It's just someone hates me personally. This is too far and too much bullshit at this point.

I made this a public thread because I want other people to see what you're all doing here and the way I am being targeted with this harassment. I'm sure you'll just delete this thread anyway but at least I can try. I'm never using this stupid site ever again after the way you're treating me.

Fortunately on Inkbunny there's none of this admin-nazi-stealth-deleting bullshit going on. Folks should try posting there instead.

I can understand your upset, but please reach out to one of us and we can certainly help you however way we can.

I would suggest you take a look again at our uploading guidelines:

https://e6ai.net/wiki_pages/4

And our Visual guidelines:

https://e6ai.net/wiki_pages/uploading_guidelines#visual

Following these can greatly help you with avoiding any chance of deletions or mistakes.
If you have any questions or further concerns, feel free to send me a DM.

angry_puppy said:
Well said! This is the most appropriate way with asking or dealing with situations such as this. Rather then get upset and rant about the deletions of your post, it's better to ask and confront the reasoning why it was deleted.

I can understand your upset, but please reach out to one of us and we can certainly help you however way we can.

I would suggest you take a look again at our uploading guidelines:

https://e6ai.net/wiki_pages/4

And our Visual guidelines:

https://e6ai.net/wiki_pages/uploading_guidelines#visual

Following these can greatly help you with avoiding any chance of deletions or mistakes.
If you have any questions or further concerns, feel free to send me a DM.

I think you seem to be misunderstanding what's going on here. The entire issue is this "Stealth Deleting" nonsense. I have talked to some other people on Telegram that have confirmed it happened to them too so this is not just me and I am not doing anything wrong here. Many different people posting to E6AI have had their submissions approved then suddenly one day months later some moderator comes by and just decides that they don't like the content or they're having a bad day or they actually don't like us as a person and it's personal, whatever reason they come up with out of the blue and decides to delete our posts. The posts aren't actually violating any rules because if they were they would of never been approved the first time around when they were first posted.

If something is approved then it should be approved and stay on the site forever once initially approved. Not approved once then suddenly "stealth deleted later" one day completely at random. How is anyone supposed to know what to do when something is approved (saying we complied with the rules and everything is fine) then later it's deleted (saying no we did something wrong, even though it was approved before)? Basically every time we upload anything to the website we now have this constant fear that our posts will randomly be deleted some day without warning, even though they're already approved and allowed on the site.

This is a problem with your moderator staff and this behaviour is complete bullshit. This is why I'm upset and this is why I decided not to use your site any more. I'm not going to sit here refreshing my profile page multiple times per day just to see if my approved posts are deleted today. That's bullcrap.

aquavixen said:
I've tried reaching out before. I've dm'd multiple different moderators and they just tell me crap like "Multiple moderators together reviewed your post and decided it wasn't allowed on our website". Basically saying what I create isn't "good enough" to be on here. I'm not alone either. I've talked to people today on telegram (several different people) who have all told me they experienced something similar: Pictures posted to E6AI were approved and up on the site for months (sometimes 6 or 8 months or more) Then suddenly one day some random moderator person comes by and decides that they don't like it and stealth deletes it with no notification. They just go to their account and suddenly happen to accidentally realise it was gone some day later.

I have read your uploading guidelines and I have made sure that everything I posted complied with it. I have done nothing wrong. But I am repeatedly targeted here. So I just won't use your website since nothing I can create is ever "good enough" for E6Ai. The problem is no one knows what "good enough" is: Things are approved then months later suddenly deleted. If you approve something then that should be it and it should stay here after being approved, not "Stealth deleted" later after it's already been approved. That kind of behaviour is complete bullshit.

I put in requests to have all of the pictures that I submitted here be deleted. Please comply with it and delete everything I posted here.

I've tried being nice. I've followed your rules but I will not tolerate being harassed and treated like this. Screw you.

I apologize for whatever inconvenience you may be experiencing with us but to my knowledge. Post that are no more then 3 months old are not considered Grandfathered and are likely to be deleted if an error is mistake was overlooked.
Anything pass that should be safe.

At least 2 of your post are decent enough to pass for approval, but your request to have them removed has been noted.

I would ask that you don't make insults to me or any other staff members here, that's unnecessary and inappropriate.

angry_puppy said:
I apologize for whatever inconvenience you may be experiencing with us but to my knowledge. Post that are no more then 3 months old are not considered Grandfathered and are likely to be deleted if an error is mistake was overlooked.
Anything pass that should be safe.

At least 2 of your post are decent enough to pass for approval, but your request to have them removed has been noted.

I would ask that you don't make insults to me or any other staff members here, that's unnecessary and inappropriate.

Good job quoting my words to drag it out into the public again after I decided to hide my post and re-write it. I hid it on purpose because I didn't want my words I wrote there in public but you just had to drag it out again and make it public again. *sigh*

If you don't want comments like that then speak to your moderator staff about this behaviour and take a look into what they are doing. Some of the people I spoke with on telegram have had posts that were up here (approved) for 8 months suddenly one day get deleted with made up reasons. Like I said: It's not just me. This is a site-wide moderator staff problem and someone needs to do something about it. Your moderators are running rampant and deleting things that didn't do anything wrong then making up reasons that don't exist just to justify their actions. Once I realised that this is what's happening here I made the decision that there's no reason to post here any longer as long as the moderators are allowed to do this sort of thing.

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sergalbutt said:
I'm not staff, nor do I have any connection to them in any way, but "taking it personally" and name-calling is a completely wrong way to go about things.

I can relate to the way you're feeling, since I started uploading here again recently and I've had a whole bunch of my posts deleted. Instead of getting mad, I took the time to ask what the reasons meant if I didn't understand them.
I've learned that the reasons that get flagged should be taken as criticism - ways to improve on things - just as any "real" artist would. It's not a personal attack - the mods are just doing their job.

Seeming as I already threw myself into "nobody asked" territory, I looked at the pic at the source where you mentioned, and I took it upon myself to highlight the things with your image that are (most likely) the reasons it got flagged

All AI artwork will always have flaws. By it's very nature AI artwork can't possibly be perfect and nothing created with AI will ever be perfect. Apparently those flaws created by making something with AI means that it can't be posted here so we can't post any AI generated art on this website. Thus: There's no reason to use the website since we can't post AI artwork here. Anyone trying to spend time to make AI generated artwork perfect is going to spend the rest of their lives working on it as it will never come out perfect. The people running this website only allow perfect AI generated artwork so it's a catch-22 about this site even existing. All anyone can ever do with AI artwork generation is to try to get things "good enough" that aren't completely awful. Unfortunately "Good enough" isn't "enough" for this site.

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aquavixen said:
If that's the reason for something to be deleted here then they are being completely elitest jerks. Apparently everything has to be completely "perfect" to be allowed here and due to the nature of AI nothing can ever be perfect and will always have flaws. Basically they're saying we can't post here with AI content because all AI content will always be flawed.

Not necessarily true. Yes, we have standards. But even the smallest of flaws can be easily fixed and corrected. If we don't implement any rules regarding our quality standards. Then people would be generating low quality, flawed, and otherwise bad looking slop.

aquavixen said:
Good job quoting my words to drag it out into the public again after I decided to hide my post and re-write it. I hid it on purpose because I didn't want my words I wrote there in public but you just had to drag it out again and make it public again. *sigh*

If you don't want comments like that then speak to your moderator staff about this behaviour and take a look into what they are doing. Some of the people I spoke with on telegram have had posts that were up here (approved) for 8 months suddenly one day get deleted with made up reasons. Like I said: It's not just me. This is a site-wide moderator staff problem and someone needs to do something about it. Your moderators are running rampant and deleting things that didn't do anything wrong then making up reasons that don't exist just to justify their actions. Once I realised that this is what's happening here I made the decision that there's no reason to post here any longer as long as the moderators are allowed to do this sort of thing.

Whatever your trying to say is false. We don't delete post unless there is a problem with it. You can see why the post was deleted when viewing the post. You seem to be rather new to creating AI content, so I would kindly suggest you try uploading elsewhere with less strict rules then we have.

aquavixen said:
All AI artwork will always have flaws. By it's very nature AI artwork can't possibly be perfect and nothing created with AI will ever be perfect. Apparently those flaws created by making something with AI means that it can't be posted here so we can't post any AI generated art on this website. Thus: There's no reason to use the website since we can't post AI artwork here. Anyone trying to spend time to make AI generated artwork perfect is going to spend the rest of their lives working on it as it will never come out perfect. The people running this website only allow perfect AI generated artwork so it's a catch-22 about this site even existing.

Inpainting, photoshop, regeneration, rinse, repeat.
Yes, flaws will and do happen, but all it takes is a little bit of extra time and effort to make it "post-worthy".

AI is a tool, a step - not the whole package - and it should be utilised as such.
Just like with "real" art, if you put in the time, you'll output a "masterpiece".

angry_puppy said:
Not necessarily true. Yes, we have standards. But even the smallest of flaws can be easily fixed and corrected. If we don't implement any rules regarding our quality standards. Then people would be generating low quality, flawed, and otherwise bad looking slop.

Whatever your trying to say is false. We don't delete post unless there is a problem with it. You can see why the post was deleted when viewing the post. You seem to be rather new to creating AI content, so I would kindly suggest you try uploading elsewhere with less strict rules then we have.

I've been making AI artwork for at least 4-5 years now. What's new is the mistake of trying to use this horrible website.

Also I'm quite tired of you REPEATEDLY QUOTING THINGS THAT I HAVE HIDDEN IN THIS THREAD!

That is extremely damn rude and you're only doing it to try and make me look bad in public. PLEASE STOP.

sergalbutt said:
Inpainting, photoshop, regeneration, rinse, repeat.
Yes, flaws will and do happen, but all it takes is a little bit of extra time and effort to make it "post-worthy".

AI is a tool, a step - not the whole package - and it should be utilised as such.
Just like with "real" art, if you put in the time, you'll output a "masterpiece".

So you're saying we should make something with AI, spend multiple days or even weeks of our time to make it perfect, post it here to get approved then after all that time and effort involved pray that it isn't suddenly stealth deleted 4-8+ months later one day. Yeah.. no. I'm not wasting my time on that. I'll do the best I can with making things with AI and remove as many flaws as possible. If that's not good enough for E6AI then I just won't use their website.

EDIT: Anyway I'm done here. Have fun with this website. You can hope and pray your pictures that you put tons of effort into making perfect aren't stealth deleted some day. That's not for me.

>using nazi
hyperbole, inaccurate, overused, you didn't pay attention in history class
>using Sloboland
sounds like Slopland, cool, quirky, shows understanding of lesser known modern Balkan Peninsula conflicts

aquavixen said:
So you're saying we should make something with AI, spend multiple days or even weeks of our time to make it perfect, post it here to get approved then after all that time and effort involved pray that it isn't suddenly stealth deleted 4-8+ months later one day. Yeah.. no. I'm not wasting my time on that. I'll do the best I can with making things with AI and remove as many flaws as possible. If that's not good enough for E6AI then I just won't use their website.

So rather than make an effort, you'd instead prefer to complain that people don't want to look at something undercooked?
Way to undo your entire argument.

sergalbutt said:
So rather than make an effort, you'd instead prefer to complain that people don't want to look at something unfinished?
Way to undo your entire argument.

I have made an effort. I've put lots of effort and multiple days into making the pictures as good as they can possibly be with the tools we have available. Apparently the best that I can do isn't good enough so there's no reason to bother posting here. Also I'm not arguing with anyone and this isn't an argument. I'm just sharing my thoughts and opinions.

This forum isn't going anywhere, and I feel like it has ran it's course. Locking this forum, please don't make another one just to rant about your feelings.