Topic: What is the reason for the harsh quality control?

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sharpy said:
Is there an alternate site of this kind where the moderation isn't so incredibly anal about the smallest detail?

Pictures I outright loved get pulled for stupidest littlest shit. Gotta visit several times a day and download whenever fav artists post before their posts are decimated. Is there a better place with more sane staff?

E6AI is the only one that has such advanced tagging system. CivitAI would be the next best thing since the almost all kinds of slop are allowed there (besides young obviously). Maybe FurryDiffusion discord as well, but the search function is pretty much nonexistent there

technical-grid said:
E6AI is the only one that has such advanced tagging system.

advanced yes but also inkbunny accepts any sorts of AI stuff, with tag system(that sometimes works) with tag suggestions but with the only rule to keep out humans(noid)

also page 2 of this thread

technical-grid said:
Maybe FurryDiffusion discord as well, but the search function is pretty much nonexistent there

all it takes is people setting up their own tags while sending their AI gens
not that hard to add
"here's some shit i did"
"Tags: penis pussy nidorina intersex"

all it takes is people setting up their own tags while sending their AI gens
not that hard to add
"here's some shit i did"
"Tags: penis pussy nidorina intersex"

Never gonna happen, unless it becomes enforced, just like the tags are on e6

technical-grid said:
Never gonna happen, unless it becomes enforced, just like the tags are on e6

to everyone yes it's not going to happen
but some people could adopt that to be up to them

Guys, consider changing the current rules.
Some of my works have been deleted for reasons I don't understand at all
Here are a couple of examples of deleted images
https://civitai.com/images/58409043
https://civitai.com/images/57161779
Uploading images to this site has now become a lottery for me. I correct any mistakes I notice, but this kind of super strict control is just baffling.
If this continues, I will probably have to stop posting anything here.
This is a really good and convenient site, but such moderation discourages me from posting here.

sharpy said:
Is there an alternate site of this kind where the moderation isn't so incredibly anal about the smallest detail?

Pictures I outright loved get pulled for stupidest littlest shit. Gotta visit several times a day and download whenever fav artists post before their posts are decimated. Is there a better place with more sane staff?

I mentioned Sankaku in another thread. They seem open to furry and AI but I haven't uploaded much there myself.
It's absolutely unusable without an advanced adblocker that can also do element filtering though.
If anyone has a better suggestion I'd be interested. It would be nice to have a single site to upload to that has reasonable quality control and doesn't ban young.

foxlover78982 said:
Guys, consider changing the current rules.
Some of my works have been deleted for reasons I don't understand at all
Here are a couple of examples of deleted images
https://civitai.com/images/58409043
https://civitai.com/images/57161779
Uploading images to this site has now become a lottery for me. I correct any mistakes I notice, but this kind of super strict control is just baffling.
If this continues, I will probably have to stop posting anything here.
This is a really good and convenient site, but such moderation discourages me from posting here.

I used those two plus one of mine as an example, since i only have one quality one i know the deletion reason of and i cant see other's removed pics. Yes there are issues, and if i would have caught the hand that is below my personal standard, and i would have fixed it on mine. But there is so much missed by the mods anyway that being a stickler feels pointless.

Three close ups of denied pics vs seven approved pics,

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/81sq7ylhtid5ncrcwbvtl/denyapprove.png?rlkey=2akbvpgd22wpvvhdf2h9rfnsa&st=flbb2vj1&dl=0

sharpy said:
Is there an alternate site of this kind where the moderation isn't so incredibly anal about the smallest detail?

Pictures I outright loved get pulled for stupidest littlest shit. Gotta visit several times a day and download whenever fav artists post before their posts are decimated. Is there a better place with more sane staff?

I saw someone post earlier about a discord server called furry diffusion? Haven’t been there myself but I’ll probably try it out later tonight just to see what the vibe is.

sharpy said:
Is there an alternate site of this kind where the moderation isn't so incredibly anal about the smallest detail?

Pictures I outright loved get pulled for stupidest littlest shit. Gotta visit several times a day and download whenever fav artists post before their posts are decimated. Is there a better place with more sane staff?

They keep saying discord... I can't get in there myself and have tried a dozen times.

penisfire said:
They keep saying discord... I can't get in there myself and have tried a dozen times.

If it’s giving you a nsfw block then you need to log in on your computer first. If that doesn’t work you need to go into your settings to see nsfw channels.

My submission https://e6ai.net/posts/92000 got deleted, and I felt the need to plead my case, as I feel it goes beyond the submission itself.

Is above-mentioned quality control really, really necessary for video ? It's still pretty much in its infancy, as was SD1.5 in 2022 ; models are barely becoming public, tools for correcting errors doesn't exist yet, and the fingers issue was so barely noticeable I didn't see it myself... At the beginning of image generation, people were littering imageboards with deformed abominations, but I'm instead aiming for showcasing pretty and interesting moving content, using cutting-edge generative technology.

Can I have a second opinion on the validity of my submission, please?

b1techienne said:
Can I have a second opinion on the validity of my submission, please?

see who deleted the post and send a Dmail to them
go to their profile and there is a "Send Message" tab, click and complain about the deletation for an appeal to post, if that doesn't work out and you feel like said staff is still on the wrong bring it up to an admin

flowersylveon said:
see who deleted the post and send a Dmail to them
go to their profile and there is a "Send Message" tab, click and complain about the deletation for an appeal to post, if that doesn't work out and you feel like said staff is still on the wrong bring it up to an admin

Thanks you, i'll try that

technical-grid said:
E6AI is the only one that has such advanced tagging system. CivitAI would be the next best thing since the almost all kinds of slop are allowed there (besides young obviously). Maybe FurryDiffusion discord as well, but the search function is pretty much nonexistent there

They've specifically mentioned "fav artists", so a simple search from: user will do

I don't see the reason of having this whole approval system. It just adds a lot of work to the staff and annoys users. Why not implement a daily upload limit to prevent spam and have users report images of unacceptable quality?

tyto4tme4l said:
I don't see the reason of having this whole approval system. It just adds a lot of work to the staff and annoys users. Why not implement a daily upload limit to prevent spam and have users report images of unacceptable quality?

Once, they forgot to review one of my submission and it got automatically deleted after 30 day... According to the deletion log, it seems to happen quite frequently

user_25482 said:
Fair. I hate arbitrary moderation. I hate hypocrisy. And seeing that most of the janitors are ALSO generators, it seems they're basing whether or not something stays up or not by their own standards rather than the universal standard. But that's just an observation.

angry_puppy said:
That isn't how the voting system works, at least to a certain extent. If you uploaded your content correctly and followed the uploading guidelines. There wouldn't be an issue with your stuff being deleted.

Angry pup, we had previously a few exchanges even before you became a janitor so i know for a fact that you are aware this being not true.
The rules are not being followed and curators are LITERALLY deleting sh_t all over the place based on their own free style interpretation of the rules, sometimes not even that much, just dropping things cause they dont like them.
Quality control is all over the place. Tag interpretation is all over the place. Curation is all over the place

Remember when i requested clarification on cub?
Lets go step by step with that one time:

I posted charmander/charmeleon images. No form of human presence in any of the images.
If you know anything about pokemon at all, charmander are smaller than charmeleon
Moderator deletes my posts because charmander is smaller than charmeleon so its (and i quote) "SUS" so it has no right to stay on the site.
1. Cub is allowed on the site
2. Young is allowed on the site
3. My post was neither, my post was literally SIZE DIFFERENCE
4. My stuff gets removed regardless because it looks like cub
5. But cub is allowed on the site so im asking
6. Dont question the moderators

Okay... so...
Its one thing that this site is ran by a group of ppl who are essentially making their own personal gallery and where the ONLY rule and criteria to post is "what we like can stay"
But its another thing when you FALSELY try to imply that the site has a functioning rule system ppl can adhere to.
They cant.
They absolutely cannot.

I and many other people have uploaded their content correctly and followed the uploading guidelines. Yet they absolutely had an issue with their stuff being deleted.
I have no idea what the ownership or power dynamics of the site looks like and i dont care about it either, but maybe, just maybe it'd be nice if someone finally talked to the site owner to be at least honest with their bs?
I mean jesus, fine. Have your own little personal preferences image board. Nobody gives a damn, but why are you OUTRIGHT lying about the rules?
Again: The moderators and curators are ABSOLUTELY NOT abiding by the rules of the site and its basically a hourly based drama about everyone doing whatever they want to.

labyrias said:
Angry pup, we had previously a few exchanges even before you became a janitor so i know for a fact that you are aware this being not true.
The rules are not being followed and curators are LITERALLY deleting sh_t all over the place based on their own free style interpretation of the rules, sometimes not even that much, just dropping things cause they dont like them.
Quality control is all over the place. Tag interpretation is all over the place. Curation is all over the place

Remember when i requested clarification on cub?
Lets go step by step with that one time:

I posted charmander/charmeleon images. No form of human presence in any of the images.
If you know anything about pokemon at all, charmander are smaller than charmeleon
Moderator deletes my posts because charmander is smaller than charmeleon so its (and i quote) "SUS" so it has no right to stay on the site.
1. Cub is allowed on the site
2. Young is allowed on the site
3. My post was neither, my post was literally SIZE DIFFERENCE
4. My stuff gets removed regardless because it looks like cub
5. But cub is allowed on the site so im asking
6. Dont question the moderators

Okay... so...
Its one thing that this site is ran by a group of ppl who are essentially making their own personal gallery and where the ONLY rule and criteria to post is "what we like can stay"
But its another thing when you FALSELY try to imply that the site has a functioning rule system ppl can adhere to.
They cant.
They absolutely cannot.

I and many other people have uploaded their content correctly and followed the uploading guidelines. Yet they absolutely had an issue with their stuff being deleted.
I have no idea what the ownership or power dynamics of the site looks like and i dont care about it either, but maybe, just maybe it'd be nice if someone finally talked to the site owner to be at least honest with their bs?
I mean jesus, fine. Have your own little personal preferences image board. Nobody gives a damn, but why are you OUTRIGHT lying about the rules?
Again: The moderators and curators are ABSOLUTELY NOT abiding by the rules of the site and its basically a hourly based drama about everyone doing whatever they want to.

kid you not i had to feral horses with big asses and they got deleted for eyes the both of them look fine even zoomed in so I'm thinking they don't like hyper anything....
ref: https://x.com/Treyvongodofma1/status/1890963586249375817

ayokeito said:
They've specifically mentioned "fav artists", so a simple search from: user will do

CivitAI would be great if their search box didn't default to OR on multi-word search. Using the prompt as tags is pretty good, but damn, if I search for a centaur girl, don't give me all centaurs and all girls on site!

Unless someone knows some advanced syntax?

Also, besides cub, it restricts more realistic feral, and most of harder fetishes :(

corsetlover69 said:
If it’s giving you a nsfw block then you need to log in on your computer first. If that doesn’t work you need to go into your settings to see nsfw channels.

No it's not a nsfw thing, it just pain doesn't work. And I'm using the computer for it.

penisfire said:
No it's not a nsfw thing, it just pain doesn't work. And I'm using the computer for it.

Trying using it through mobile.
Note: You must be 18+ in order to join. Meaning your account must also register as being 18+

angry_puppy said:
Trying using it through mobile.
Note: You must be 18+ in order to join. Meaning your account must also register as being 18+

you also must be +18 to even be here

labyrias said:
Angry pup, we had previously a few exchanges even before you became a janitor so i know for a fact that you are aware this being not true.
The rules are not being followed and curators are LITERALLY deleting sh_t all over the place based on their own free style interpretation of the rules, sometimes not even that much, just dropping things cause they dont like them.
Quality control is all over the place. Tag interpretation is all over the place. Curation is all over the place

Remember when i requested clarification on cub?
Lets go step by step with that one time:

I posted charmander/charmeleon images. No form of human presence in any of the images.
If you know anything about pokemon at all, charmander are smaller than charmeleon
Moderator deletes my posts because charmander is smaller than charmeleon so its (and i quote) "SUS" so it has no right to stay on the site.
1. Cub is allowed on the site
2. Young is allowed on the site
3. My post was neither, my post was literally SIZE DIFFERENCE
4. My stuff gets removed regardless because it looks like cub
5. But cub is allowed on the site so im asking
6. Dont question the moderators

Okay... so...
Its one thing that this site is ran by a group of ppl who are essentially making their own personal gallery and where the ONLY rule and criteria to post is "what we like can stay"
But its another thing when you FALSELY try to imply that the site has a functioning rule system ppl can adhere to.
They cant.
They absolutely cannot.

I and many other people have uploaded their content correctly and followed the uploading guidelines. Yet they absolutely had an issue with their stuff being deleted.
I have no idea what the ownership or power dynamics of the site looks like and i dont care about it either, but maybe, just maybe it'd be nice if someone finally talked to the site owner to be at least honest with their bs?
I mean jesus, fine. Have your own little personal preferences image board. Nobody gives a damn, but why are you OUTRIGHT lying about the rules?
Again: The moderators and curators are ABSOLUTELY NOT abiding by the rules of the site and its basically a hourly based drama about everyone doing whatever they want to.

Firstly, the rules have changed since I became a janitor. You a referring to old rules.

Secondly, am not the one who deleted your post not have I ever seen your post. As of a few months ago, the rules in regards to young content has changed. You can find this info on FD or our Uploading Guidelines.

You only have 2 deleted post, 1 of which was deleted for young content and the other you requested yourself for a takedown so I don't understand what "Stuff" your referring to other then that single post. There is no false claims that your referring too, relax.

Lastly, I would reframe from making hurtful or unnecessary comments towards the staff team. It's a lot more complex then you think it is. Either you abide by the rules or not, it's entirely on you.

angry_puppy said: Firstly, the rules have changed since I became a janitor. You a referring to old rules.

Did the old rules specify size_difference as cub? If so, why was there cub content on the site even back then?
The problem with that 1 image i told you is that the reason for deletion was a.) a lie b.) even the lie does not justify deletion
Yet my image was removed. What was hard to understand about what i said?

angry_puppy said: Secondly, am not the one who deleted your post not have I ever seen your post.

I never claimed that you were the one who deleted my post.
I specifically said that we talked about this because you replied to my forum post. And all of this happened before you even became a janitor.
I have not accused you of anything m8. Not sure if you understand what im writing.

angry_puppy said: As of a few months ago, the rules in regards to young content has changed. You can find this info on FD or our Uploading Guidelines.

Why does that matter?
My post should not have been removed even based on the old rules.

angry_puppy said: You only have 2 deleted post, 1 of which was deleted for young content and the other you requested yourself for a takedown so I don't understand what "Stuff" your referring to other then that single post.

Correct. I am referencing that single post as an example that the moderators never abided by site rules.

angry_puppy said: There is no false claims that your referring too, relax.

There categorically is tho, when moderators delete size_difference posts for being cub, while cub is also allowed on the site. What do you classify that if not as a false claim?

angry_puppy said: It's a lot more complex then you think it is.

I sincerely doubt the issue is so complex that the moderation team has to lie to the users about the rules.
Or is it?
Are you telling me that none of you are allowed to give a proper explanation to any of the users?
Are we running a 3 letter agency psyop or something?
Cause if you gonna tell me yes, then sure. I understand.
But if not. Instead of saying "its complex" you really just could simply explain the complexities of moderation and curation of this site.

But tbh it doesnt matter. If this is how ya want to run the place then run it like this.

labyrias said:
Did the old rules specify size_difference as cub? If so, why was there cub content on the site even back then?
The problem with that 1 image i told you is that the reason for deletion was a.) a lie b.) even the lie does not justify deletion
Yet my image was removed. What was hard to understand about what i said?

I never claimed that you were the one who deleted my post.
I specifically said that we talked about this because you replied to my forum post. And all of this happened before you even became a janitor.
I have not accused you of anything m8. Not sure if you understand what im writing.

Why does that matter?
My post should not have been removed even based on the old rules.

Correct. I am referencing that single post as an example that the moderators never abided by site rules.

There categorically is tho, when moderators delete size_difference posts for being cub, while cub is also allowed on the site. What do you classify that if not as a false claim?

I sincerely doubt the issue is so complex that the moderation team has to lie to the users about the rules.
Or is it?
Are you telling me that none of you are allowed to give a proper explanation to any of the users?
Are we running a 3 letter agency psyop or something?
Cause if you gonna tell me yes, then sure. I understand.
But if not. Instead of saying "its complex" you really just could simply explain the complexities of moderation and curation of this site.

But tbh it doesnt matter. If this is how ya want to run the place then run it like this.

The charmander looked like a toddler so the post was removed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Said charmander: https://postimg.cc/47TC47bK

Locking this thread now, I feel like it has run it's course.