Topic: [BUR] Putting our balls together

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

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The bulk update request #691 is pending approval.

remove alias humanoid_ball (0) -> humanoid_balls (7)
remove alias humanoid_ball_sack (0) -> humanoid_balls (7)
remove alias humanoid_ballsack (0) -> humanoid_balls (7)
remove alias humanoid_scrotum (0) -> humanoid_balls (7)
remove alias humanoid_testes (0) -> humanoid_balls (7)
remove alias humanoid_testicle (0) -> humanoid_balls (7)
remove alias humanoid_testicles (0) -> humanoid_balls (7)
remove implication humanoid_balls (7) -> balls (36869)
remove implication humanoid_balls (7) -> humanoid_genitalia (15475)
remove alias human_ball (0) -> human_balls (0)
remove alias human_ball_sack (0) -> human_balls (0)
remove alias human_ballsack (0) -> human_balls (0)
remove alias human_scrotum (0) -> human_balls (0)
remove alias human_testes (0) -> human_balls (0)
remove alias human_testicle (0) -> human_balls (0)
remove alias human_testicles (0) -> human_balls (0)
remove implication human_balls (0) -> balls (36869)
remove implication human_balls (0) -> human_genitalia (164)

Reason: From a discussion on Discord: there's no real need to have human_balls and humanoid_balls as tags separated from balls as the distinction is not really relevant.

Follow Up

alias humanoid_ball -> balls
alias humanoid_balls -> balls
alias humanoid_ball_sack -> balls
alias humanoid_ballsack -> balls
alias humanoid_scrotum -> balls
alias humanoid_testes -> balls
alias humanoid_testicle -> balls
alias humanoid_testicles -> balls
alias human_ball -> balls
alias human_balls -> balls
alias human_ball_sack -> balls
alias human_ballsack -> balls
alias human_scrotum -> balls
alias human_testes -> balls
alias human_testicle -> balls
alias human_testicles -> balls

Discord Discussion

[02/03/2026 01:54] terraraptor
dropping in to mention something I noticed: I don't think this tag is meant to implicate human https://e6ai.net/wiki_pages/show_or_new?title=human_genitalia - just because a character has the bits doesn't mean the human species tag should be added (post #104878 would be an example of how this goes wrong). This tag does not exist on e621, but there is this near-comparison where it does not do this implication: https://e621.net/wiki_pages/30369

[02/03/2026 01:55] sparkzicity
human_genitalia⁩ is specifically reserved for humans, otherwise ⁨humanoid_genitalia⁩ is the correct tag

[02/03/2026 01:56] sparkzicity
Because humans shouldn't be tagged with ⁨humanoid_genitalia

[02/03/2026 01:56] terraraptor
the wiki doesn't say that, and to my understanding the *opposite* is true where you'd only use that tag to highlight human bits on non-humans

[02/03/2026 01:57] sparkzicity
Human bits on non-humans is ⁨⁨humanoid_genitalia⁩⁩.
The use of ⁨human_genitalia⁩ is an e6ai-specific thing, I believe.

[02/03/2026 01:58] sparkzicity
I think there's too much confusion there, but it seems to keep a good handful of people happy.

[02/03/2026 01:59] terraraptor
🤷 alright then, I'll just switch the tag to the 'oid version of the above mentioned example.

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[02/03/2026 06:18] dfy6c_80750
Is there a reason why human_balls became its own separate tag with this? Balls are pretty "universal" in that it doesn't need the distinction between humanoid and human imo. Even e621 aliases human*oid*_balls to just balls, not just human. human_penis and human_pussy as their own thing, fine, but idk about balls

[02/03/2026 06:19] dfy6c_80750
It hasn't been used on a single post either

[02/03/2026 06:19] latiodile
maybe human balls are uniquely wrinkly? but I haven't seen any models generating wrinkly balls lol

[02/03/2026 06:19] latiodile
probably a missed implication

[02/03/2026 06:22] dfy6c_80750
I would assume that could just be wrinkly_balls or wrinkled_balls (one aliased to the other, since both of these exist on e621).

I don't think it was "missed" so to speak, it was actually actively separated from humanoid on e6ai at one point [here](https://e6ai.net/forum_topics/358).

[02/03/2026 06:25] latiodile
that's a fairly big bur so maybe jello missed it or didn't immediately notice it

[02/03/2026 07:01] jelloponies
https://e6ai.net/forum_topics/358

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[Not yet BUR] Separate everything human from humanoid - e6AI
BUR scriptunalias human_feet -> humanoid_feetunalias human_foot -> humanoid_feetalias human_foot -> human_feetimplicate human_feet -> feetunalias human_hands -> humanoid_handsunalias...

[02/03/2026 07:01] dfy6c_80750
I did reference that link in my next message :p

[02/03/2026 07:02] jelloponies
oh sorry X_X

[02/03/2026 07:02] jelloponies
I just woke up so my brain is still warming up

[02/03/2026 07:02] dfy6c_80750
all good lol

[02/03/2026 07:04] jelloponies
I can't say for sure why human_balls are separated

[02/03/2026 07:05] latiodile
you're the one that separated them lol

[02/03/2026 07:05] jelloponies
this part of the bur is contradictory

[02/03/2026 07:05] jelloponies

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[02/03/2026 07:06] jelloponies
The way I rmember the conversation back then was that balls might as well be universal since the difference between balls between species is minimal

[02/03/2026 07:06] latiodile
the only species that have significantly different balls are like... deer and goats

[02/03/2026 07:06] latiodile
where they're more lemon shaped

[02/03/2026 07:07] latiodile
not counting the plethora that have them internal, like elephants and most aquatic species, and birds

[02/03/2026 07:07] dfy6c_80750
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/14840

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lemon testicles - e621
post #138533Explicit TagSee Help: Ratings for more info.Characters whose balls are distinctly ovular in shape with the bottom portion each coming to a clear point. Points of both halves often may b...

[02/03/2026 07:07] jelloponies
still

[02/03/2026 07:07] sparkzicity
I don't know why we don't just take the e621 route to avoid any confusion and/or mistagging

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[02/03/2026 07:07] jelloponies
if you feel we need to change that up then I'm fine with it

[02/03/2026 07:08] dfy6c_80750
I think both humanoid and human balls should just alias to balls

[02/03/2026 07:08] latiodile
yeah

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[02/03/2026 07:08] jelloponies
makes sense to me

[02/03/2026 07:09] latiodile
this is like the one single balls tag that i can see staying unaliased since there's definitely a genuine reason for this one to exist

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[02/03/2026 07:09] sparkzicity
It's among e621's aliases

[02/03/2026 07:09] dfy6c_80750
Exactly

[02/03/2026 07:09] dfy6c_80750
But should lemon_testicles be lemon_balls instead?

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[02/03/2026 07:10] sparkzicity
Same with ⁨⁨human_penis -> humanoid_penis human_genitalia -> humanoid_genitalia⁩⁩ etc.

[02/03/2026 07:10] jelloponies
well those were separated intentionally but the balls one I kinda get is irrelevant

[02/03/2026 07:11] sparkzicity
See I just don't understand *why*. Can't be for blacklist reasons because at that point, just blacklist ⁨human

[02/03/2026 07:11] latiodile
the e621 wiki page talks about selective breeding for the scrotum shape wtf why

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[02/03/2026 07:12] dfy6c_80750
I do agree human_penis/genitalia is a bit confusing with the existence of humanoid_x, although I can see the reason for that separation.

[02/03/2026 07:13] sparkzicity
People still mistag it. Hell, I was still mistagging it until just recently

[02/03/2026 07:13] latiodile
especially if it's only attached to a visible recognizable human, otherwise humanoid_ is used

[02/03/2026 07:14] jelloponies
but yea, the balls one I suppose we could change

[02/03/2026 07:14] dfy6c_80750
that for sure imo

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