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    post #193780
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    giamidwi said:
    Could you elaborate? All I know is the site is shutting down :'(

    Long story short Bad Dragon owners don't want to be assosiated with AI content (e6ai) so they're axing the project on 13th.
    Meanwhile we found someone else to host the site for us (MakeFox), but after
    the site and data transfer (blepart) was completed the new owner has shown us too many red flags (we foolishly dismissed them before the transfer was completed) and thus the short lived cooperation came to an end.
    (Examples being: -wanting to rewrite the entire codebase of e6ai through Claude (vibecoding), making it completely unreadable to our developer who's very familiar with e6 architecture;
    -forcing us to sign a contract written by Claude (we're not even paid mind you), basically saying that everything including user content belonged to him, and he gets to do whatever he wants with the site, with zero possibility of negiotiating the contract's terms (he didn't want the site to remain as it was, as he believes that e621's battle tested coding is inferior to Claude's vibecoding)
    -wanted to remove the takedown feature for users
    -generally has very little patience, and wants to make changes NOW rather that consult anything with us before implementing it
    -was negative towards us giving pushback for his sudden changes)

    There's plenty more, but i'd have to leak the convos, which i'd rather not do.
    Generally speaking the site would stray too far from what it is now and we didn't want that

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    post #193879
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    Well reading this thread has taken me from sadness to hope and back to sadness again. I hope we get a proper alternative running soon. This is the only furry art site I go to now.

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    zanderster said:
    Shame this site is leaving. it's pretty much the only good furry ai site. Is there any groups or projects in the works to migrate over to or is everyone just admitting defeat and moping around till the final days?

    There's nothing currently up and running, but join the Discord for updates from e6ai's former staff. We'd be happy to have you!

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    Me feeling those butterflies sensations in my stomach and trying not to stare too much in public 😅🥵👀🥠

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    zanderster said:
    Shame this site is leaving. it's pretty much the only good furry ai site. Is there any groups or projects in the works to migrate over to or is everyone just admitting defeat and moping around till the final days?

    Looks like

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    n_n said:
    Warning going out considering new Blep site

    "Stop donating to MakeFox
    If you wanted to support our staff, we recommend that you stop donating to MakeFox immediately. If you have donated already, please try to cashback the money. The donated money did not and will not make it to any of our staff members. This has been our greatest shame. We should never have trusted MakeFox this readily with our community's generosity. There is no excuse that we can offer. We should have exercised far more caution, and been far more suspicious of MakeFox. MakeFox is not willing to return the donations.
    MakeFox's methods
    Hinoserm is MakeFox's programmer. We have our own programmer, DRLa. It quickly became apparently that we have polar opposite views on how the website's infrastructure should be handled. Hinoserm believes that vibe coding is superior to human coding in every way and wished to make breakneck changes to the website at his whim, without the approval and without first telling either DRLa or our staff in general. Not only that, but he wants to upturn the site's codebase entirely and have his Claude agent swarm redo everything. He has shown no willingness to work together with DRLa. As an example, Hinoserm attempted to remove blep.art's takedown system without first consulting us. He does not understand the culture or the workings of the website. This is fine. What is not fine, is that he does not consult us before making sweeping changes. This has been a long-running theme in our short time working together. We believe that if we continued working with MakeFox, blep.art would shift away from our staff's and our community's vision against our will, either sooner or later. There was no way forward without betraying our community and essentially handing over the entire website to them on a silver platter. We tried talking it out over these last few days. We tried to have MakeFox see us as equals and value our input, but sadly this was not the outcome.

    What's next?
    This has all transpired in the last few hours, and we are still recovering. The dust has not settled. We do not know what the future holds for us, other than knowing that this Discord server will continue onward. From now on, we, the staff members running this very server, will no longer associate with blep.art or MakeFox. Blep.art now belongs fully to MakeFox (it was them that bought the domain name and are hosting the website). We will not be curating any more content on Blep.art, nor will we be moderating it or supporting it in any way. This server continues to be fully run by us. MakeFox no connection to this server anymore. The future of Blep.art itself is completely unknown to us. We recommend that you stop uploading on Blep.art from now on, as we have lost complete faith in their ability to run what should have been the continuation of e6ai. We are sorry for having rushed into this and to have broken your trust. There is a possibility that the website will be taken down. This is completely speculative, but it would be wise to, once again, backup anything you need from the website ASAP. We encourage you to delete your accounts as well, as we no longer have any trust in this company. Stay tuned for more information."

    The disagreements that have arisen within the community are very concerning. If you have an old well-coordinated team that includes a REAL programmer, it is important to take charge of the project—even if it means redoing the migration. I see nothing wrong with using AI to write code, but the programmer must have a 100% understanding of how that code works and must be an integral part of the team.

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    skillyzee said:
    Always loved seeing new gens of yours pop up. 😥

    Always a treat.

    Thanks love, I always appreciated your comments <3

    langri said:
    Thanks for everything Ceri! You were the best!

    No u.

    grove_ellar said:
    "Oh, the weary traveler draws close to the end of the path."

    Path of Exile 2 full release this December wohooo!

    smaugthedragon said:
    gg and thanks for all the fish

    Look, another author I miss. I'm going to grab my towel.

    slopconnoisseur said:
    Think your stuff alone is proof enough that this is an art form like any other.
    Will you be moving anywhere else, if you find the motivation to continue?

    If motivation returns, which I had some of it for 3 hours today when I read about the existence of a new website with the same staff and community until it's demise by the admin for making a bait and switch, then I'll probably make some personal blog and gallery website over at Nekoweb.
    I started to make in January as a side project, but like with every project I start I left it unfinished lmao. My username still holds true, no place to call home on the Internet nowadays lul.

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  • post #193879
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    I'm just throwing a massive opinion.
    Generally groups and corporations do not do anything for free.
    There is always self interest.
    This makefox does what it does for money regardless of the non-profit claim.
    This is likely is all about generating income in some manner.

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    Shame this site is leaving. it's pretty much the only good furry ai site. Is there any groups or projects in the works to migrate over to or is everyone just admitting defeat and moping around till the final days?

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  • post #193780
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    technical-grid said:
    I'll move over to blep.art like everyone else here, so I'll update these over there at some point
    Eh, scratch that, we've been basically rugpulled again

    Could you elaborate? All I know is the site is shutting down :'(

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    meerkitten said:
    You are a purveyor of cuteness. That shall not go unrecognized.

    Also, I hate that the report button looks just like a reply button just off work... ugh...

    Thank you truly! That means a lot to me!

    Also don't worry about it lol

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    n_n said:
    Warning going out considering new Blep site

    "Stop donating to MakeFox
    If you wanted to support our staff, we recommend that you stop donating to MakeFox immediately. If you have donated already, please try to cashback the money. The donated money did not and will not make it to any of our staff members. This has been our greatest shame. We should never have trusted MakeFox this readily with our community's generosity. There is no excuse that we can offer. We should have exercised far more caution, and been far more suspicious of MakeFox. MakeFox is not willing to return the donations.
    MakeFox's methods
    Hinoserm is MakeFox's programmer. We have our own programmer, DRLa. It quickly became apparently that we have polar opposite views on how the website's infrastructure should be handled. Hinoserm believes that vibe coding is superior to human coding in every way and wished to make breakneck changes to the website at his whim, without the approval and without first telling either DRLa or our staff in general. Not only that, but he wants to upturn the site's codebase entirely and have his Claude agent swarm redo everything. He has shown no willingness to work together with DRLa. As an example, Hinoserm attempted to remove blep.art's takedown system without first consulting us. He does not understand the culture or the workings of the website. This is fine. What is not fine, is that he does not consult us before making sweeping changes. This has been a long-running theme in our short time working together. We believe that if we continued working with MakeFox, blep.art would shift away from our staff's and our community's vision against our will, either sooner or later. There was no way forward without betraying our community and essentially handing over the entire website to them on a silver platter. We tried talking it out over these last few days. We tried to have MakeFox see us as equals and value our input, but sadly this was not the outcome.

    What's next?
    This has all transpired in the last few hours, and we are still recovering. The dust has not settled. We do not know what the future holds for us, other than knowing that this Discord server will continue onward. From now on, we, the staff members running this very server, will no longer associate with blep.art or MakeFox. Blep.art now belongs fully to MakeFox (it was them that bought the domain name and are hosting the website). We will not be curating any more content on Blep.art, nor will we be moderating it or supporting it in any way. This server continues to be fully run by us. MakeFox no connection to this server anymore. The future of Blep.art itself is completely unknown to us. We recommend that you stop uploading on Blep.art from now on, as we have lost complete faith in their ability to run what should have been the continuation of e6ai. We are sorry for having rushed into this and to have broken your trust. There is a possibility that the website will be taken down. This is completely speculative, but it would be wise to, once again, backup anything you need from the website ASAP. We encourage you to delete your accounts as well, as we no longer have any trust in this company. Stay tuned for more information."

    Enters "here we go again" meme from GTA San Andreas.

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  • post #193618
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    rackkyoon said:
    Right behind ya. Cheers!

    Well apparently the blep site is not going to happen due to bad contracts.... can't catch a break. Or more so they axed all the cool staff members that are trying to give us a place to post. So blep is uncertain atm.

    Updated

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    Warning going out considering new Blep site

    "Stop donating to MakeFox
    If you wanted to support our staff, we recommend that you stop donating to MakeFox immediately. If you have donated already, please try to cashback the money. The donated money did not and will not make it to any of our staff members. This has been our greatest shame. We should never have trusted MakeFox this readily with our community's generosity. There is no excuse that we can offer. We should have exercised far more caution, and been far more suspicious of MakeFox. MakeFox is not willing to return the donations.
    MakeFox's methods
    Hinoserm is MakeFox's programmer. We have our own programmer, DRLa. It quickly became apparently that we have polar opposite views on how the website's infrastructure should be handled. Hinoserm believes that vibe coding is superior to human coding in every way and wished to make breakneck changes to the website at his whim, without the approval and without first telling either DRLa or our staff in general. Not only that, but he wants to upturn the site's codebase entirely and have his Claude agent swarm redo everything. He has shown no willingness to work together with DRLa. As an example, Hinoserm attempted to remove blep.art's takedown system without first consulting us. He does not understand the culture or the workings of the website. This is fine. What is not fine, is that he does not consult us before making sweeping changes. This has been a long-running theme in our short time working together. We believe that if we continued working with MakeFox, blep.art would shift away from our staff's and our community's vision against our will, either sooner or later. There was no way forward without betraying our community and essentially handing over the entire website to them on a silver platter. We tried talking it out over these last few days. We tried to have MakeFox see us as equals and value our input, but sadly this was not the outcome.

    What's next?
    This has all transpired in the last few hours, and we are still recovering. The dust has not settled. We do not know what the future holds for us, other than knowing that this Discord server will continue onward. From now on, we, the staff members running this very server, will no longer associate with blep.art or MakeFox. Blep.art now belongs fully to MakeFox (it was them that bought the domain name and are hosting the website). We will not be curating any more content on Blep.art, nor will we be moderating it or supporting it in any way. This server continues to be fully run by us. MakeFox no connection to this server anymore. The future of Blep.art itself is completely unknown to us. We recommend that you stop uploading on Blep.art from now on, as we have lost complete faith in their ability to run what should have been the continuation of e6ai. We are sorry for having rushed into this and to have broken your trust. There is a possibility that the website will be taken down. This is completely speculative, but it would be wise to, once again, backup anything you need from the website ASAP. We encourage you to delete your accounts as well, as we no longer have any trust in this company. Stay tuned for more information."

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  • post #193896
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    Warning going out considering new Blep site

    "Stop donating to MakeFox
    If you wanted to support our staff, we recommend that you stop donating to MakeFox immediately. If you have donated already, please try to cashback the money. The donated money did not and will not make it to any of our staff members. This has been our greatest shame. We should never have trusted MakeFox this readily with our community's generosity. There is no excuse that we can offer. We should have exercised far more caution, and been far more suspicious of MakeFox. MakeFox is not willing to return the donations.
    MakeFox's methods
    Hinoserm is MakeFox's programmer. We have our own programmer, DRLa. It quickly became apparently that we have polar opposite views on how the website's infrastructure should be handled. Hinoserm believes that vibe coding is superior to human coding in every way and wished to make breakneck changes to the website at his whim, without the approval and without first telling either DRLa or our staff in general. Not only that, but he wants to upturn the site's codebase entirely and have his Claude agent swarm redo everything. He has shown no willingness to work together with DRLa. As an example, Hinoserm attempted to remove blep.art's takedown system without first consulting us. He does not understand the culture or the workings of the website. This is fine. What is not fine, is that he does not consult us before making sweeping changes. This has been a long-running theme in our short time working together. We believe that if we continued working with MakeFox, blep.art would shift away from our staff's and our community's vision against our will, either sooner or later. There was no way forward without betraying our community and essentially handing over the entire website to them on a silver platter. We tried talking it out over these last few days. We tried to have MakeFox see us as equals and value our input, but sadly this was not the outcome.

    What's next?
    This has all transpired in the last few hours, and we are still recovering. The dust has not settled. We do not know what the future holds for us, other than knowing that this Discord server will continue onward. From now on, we, the staff members running this very server, will no longer associate with blep.art or MakeFox. Blep.art now belongs fully to MakeFox (it was them that bought the domain name and are hosting the website). We will not be curating any more content on Blep.art, nor will we be moderating it or supporting it in any way. This server continues to be fully run by us. MakeFox no connection to this server anymore. The future of Blep.art itself is completely unknown to us. We recommend that you stop uploading on Blep.art from now on, as we have lost complete faith in their ability to run what should have been the continuation of e6ai. We are sorry for having rushed into this and to have broken your trust. There is a possibility that the website will be taken down. This is completely speculative, but it would be wise to, once again, backup anything you need from the website ASAP. We encourage you to delete your accounts as well, as we no longer have any trust in this company. Stay tuned for more information."

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  • post #193877
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    Welp, things just changed again. I will continue looking for an alternate site, because MakeFox just took over blep.art and the creators of the site don't have any control over it.

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    Uncensored? don't know why would been censored in first place, nothing is ever shown. I think there's a lot of overly horny furs that mad over that. Time I'm posting, it's at score of -17.

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    Thank you all for the great time here at e6ai! Been here almost every single day and had lots of fun! I am super happy that there is a future at blep! :)

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    I think my favorite part was the hyenas. I like when we hear one of them grunting. Or maybe the part where they're knocked up.

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    astronomix said:
    And for the record, i do both AI and traditional art. I thought the same way you did before i actually knew what AI image generators actually did.

    I don't really have a bone in this fight but there's a bunch of pieces here that are clearly prompting "Meesh's style" "Dredjir's style" etc. and it's hard to argue that's not riding the coattails of someone else who developed their own style

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    evilhoarse said:
    I almost never go to e621 because there is too much trash to filter through to get to anything good. This site has great art on every page.

    It's sad that AI is taking over the work of artists but it's the reality we live in. We have to cope. We can't shut our eyes and pretend it isn't happening and hope for the best. If we have to deal with AI, then we might as well get some damn enjoyment out of it!

    Facts. 621 has nothing on this. I have had my account for only 1.5 years, only 9-10 pages of stuff I’ve saved of artwork I’ve searched long and hard for all the way back to 2011. Here 5-6 pages in 7 months, bear in mind I came to this site under a year ago. Gone as far back as 2023. Just shows the quality and niche is better here than 621. Which I find barely any quality, adverts for ripoff work, and literal human ‘slop’

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    lessymoor said:
    I think it would be an excellent move for the e6ai community to ignore Bad Dragon products. Perhaps the loss of some revenue will help them realize that the decision was a mistake.

    "Продукты" у них слишком качественный чтобы их игнорировать :(

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    What model was used to generate this? I can't achieve a similar effect no matter what I do.

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    kaizer said:
    I am just a simple creator, but im happy my content is enjoyable to you! 😁

    You are a purveyor of cuteness. That shall not go unrecognized.

    Also, I hate that the report button looks just like a reply button just off work... ugh...

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    celeste_shamrock said:
    One basic question: Why are they taking down E6AI? Its certainly well supported with an abundancy of posts. Were they brow-beat by the hand-doodlers to end it? What happened?

    I guess the overhyped ones who makes commisions of the price of $60 for some lazy line-arts are butthurt the AI literally now can make it better AND for free

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    dildofagginsai said:
    You mean protect genuinely untalented artists from competition, and debase my artistic sensibilities with porn that doesn't suit myself or my vibe? sure

    The real slop is the low tier human work blotting out the 1% that's by serious people who care about their craft enough to learn how to draw well. AI is still not as good as a good artist, but it's MUCH better than bad ones.

    For a lot of niche kinks, AI has been gamechanging in allowing us to finally have good porn. When there's only a handful of creators drawing what you like, that 1% that's talented is one person, if any.

    the funny thing is, all those AI luddites can deny the AI all they want, but it is with us for ever from now on. And the faster they adapt the better for themselves

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    I can't register on the new site. It says just Sign up failed. No idea if the problem is the browser, VPN IP, or disposable temp email. Anyway I don't understand why so many porn sites are so obsessed to prevent anonymous users. No one is gonna give porn site his real identity neither real email. And bots can pass email verification by script created single use email accounts at common service providers. So it just annoys users and fails to prevent bots anyway.

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    zheneric said:
    Y'know, I didn't always like Jack being the dorm sub, but I've since warmed up to him so much. It's just too hot

    Hell yeah man tell me about it

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    n n

    Member

    rrul said:
    NICE!!! just got a question and is: do i have to make an entire new account there? Tried to sign with the username + pasword from here and it didn't worked.

    New account's are needed but making them exactly the same is no issue from my own experience.

    All the likes and fav counts seem to carry over for all posts. scores and awards and warnings i got no real information on but it's nice we all get a fresh start for now. We can only get better!

    Updated

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    wherewolf said:
    Super cute & sexy kitty -- I'm really going to miss your amazing images, foxlover!

    foxlover78982 said:
    It's sad that E6ai is shutting down.
    You can follow my work on my Telegram channel: https://t.me/+pJ2WHrF6zAU0NWYy
    If a service similar to E6ai emerges, I'll most likely post my new work there as well.

    as you might already know, they transfer to "blep. art"

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  • post #193879
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    In order for "AI" to be trained to generate art it has to sample art of a certain quality. Find me the artists that draw stuff as good as the ai generated art of all the different furry art.... Ai once stole art to get its training data going (no argument) but now its using CGI and other forms of self generated examples to train itself... put some effort into understanding how generative ai actually makes art and you will see that it can not and will not use low quality art even if it was hand drawn for its models.

    Also also, it stole TONS more art from anime and cartoons, and if people really did not want their shit to be used, Fucking copyright it... people use to do that to you know... protect their work from theft, so people need stop bitching about art being stollen if the same people can't be bothered to legally protect it.

    Here is a Simple fact, Ai generators are not going to stay free, they cant afford to...(they are still loosing 2 dollars for ever dollar they make) someday soon all free Ai art generators will stop, and the work will come back to rhe hand drawn artists... and maybe by then people will learn ways to protect their art if they truly care about it.

    I would rather E6ai stay segregated from e621, I like knowing if my art is human made or bot made, and im sure the peiple at Bad dragon would enjoy not having to moderate the slop off the furry site... but killing this site, will not kill the art generated by ai, it will find a place and it will compete with E621, for every minute people are not on bad dragons sites is a minute less they get exposure and $$$...

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    pyreflux said:
    right there with ya. just saving my favorites before the stie is gone. i got about 28gb rn :D

    transferred all my favorite posts over to the new site, was simple.
    In all it took about 10 seconds
    directions are in above comments.

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    Please save and reupload your pawbert art when e6ai goes down. it's all really good and ddoesn't deserve to be lost.

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  • post #193727
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    Why is everyone saying this is 'old school' laundry mats'. oh, golly. Bro, they are all over the US and EVERYWHERE. I'm sorry, but not all of us have and can afford our own washer and dryer.

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    adarjoor said:
    You know how much worse art there is on E621? 9_9 I get tired of people with a tablet sketching out the most crude crap, calling it "art" and flooding E621 with that. For every good pic by a good artist there are dozens of pieces of crap, oh, but AI is the problem. If E621 practiced half the cultivation of the crap that gets uploaded there that the mods on this site do with the AI pics here, they wouldn't have so many people barely visiting there.

    See you all on BLEP!

    E621 used to be so good, but it's diminished over the years. I'm almost certain e621 staff have it out for me too. I've posted many good things over the past ~15 years on there, and more than half of them were stricken down for the stupidest reasons. And as you said, there's worse art on there. Worse than stuff I posted that was rejected.

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    badwolf1 said:
    Too bad someone else can't take over.
    not a clue how that would happen.

    Very happy I saved all the awesome work instead of only favorite them.
    Just about 20gb.

    right there with ya. just saving my favorites before the stie is gone. i got about 28gb rn :D

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  • post #193888
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    Ferox

    Member

    Ach, Qwenker, your comic about dysfunctional horny, manipulative weirdos got me back into this site after I started to drift away.

    I hope its possible to continue, provided its actually still fun for you and all that. I've had some solid belly laughs over it.

    You raise several solid points though regarding functionality vs. return on time invested vs. security and so on.

    Makes me sad that the owners are willing to kill a community they founded for folks who have never witnessed it.

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    the7eye said:
    Nice work, i like your gens
    Do you have some discord server or telegram group for following you?
    I asking because e6ai will shutting down in 8 days :c

    I don't, still figuring out what I'm gonna do next/

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    With this being the last post, the way I see it, we all successfully married Braixen. Good job, everyone💖✌️

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    ayegibarb said:
    Decided to upload again today after two years, only to get hit with bad news. Sad.

    Did you miss the good news? Go up a few posts

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