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      Kaizer Comment by a director on this post

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      meerkitten said:
      Glad to hear it. Losing you would be a tragedy. (Already found Epicfox again over on Pawbooru, so that's kind of cool).

      I am just a simple creator, but im happy my content is enjoyable to you! 😁

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    • kaizer said:
      I am just a simple creator, but im happy my content is enjoyable to you! 😁

      You are a purveyor of cuteness. That shall not go unrecognized.

      Also, I hate that the report button looks just like a reply button just off work... ugh...

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    • Kaizer Comment by a director on this post

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      meerkitten said:
      You are a purveyor of cuteness. That shall not go unrecognized.

      Also, I hate that the report button looks just like a reply button just off work... ugh...

      Thank you truly! That means a lot to me!

      Also don't worry about it lol

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        lessymoor said:
        I think it would be an excellent move for the e6ai community to ignore Bad Dragon products. Perhaps the loss of some revenue will help them realize that the decision was a mistake.

        "Продукты" у них слишком качественный чтобы их игнорировать :(

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      • evilhoarse said:
        I almost never go to e621 because there is too much trash to filter through to get to anything good. This site has great art on every page.

        It's sad that AI is taking over the work of artists but it's the reality we live in. We have to cope. We can't shut our eyes and pretend it isn't happening and hope for the best. If we have to deal with AI, then we might as well get some damn enjoyment out of it!

        Facts. 621 has nothing on this. I have had my account for only 1.5 years, only 9-10 pages of stuff I’ve saved of artwork I’ve searched long and hard for all the way back to 2011. Here 5-6 pages in 7 months, bear in mind I came to this site under a year ago. Gone as far back as 2023. Just shows the quality and niche is better here than 621. Which I find barely any quality, adverts for ripoff work, and literal human ‘slop’

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      • astronomix said:
        And for the record, i do both AI and traditional art. I thought the same way you did before i actually knew what AI image generators actually did.

        I don't really have a bone in this fight but there's a bunch of pieces here that are clearly prompting "Meesh's style" "Dredjir's style" etc. and it's hard to argue that's not riding the coattails of someone else who developed their own style

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      • Warning going out considering new Blep site

        "Stop donating to MakeFox
        If you wanted to support our staff, we recommend that you stop donating to MakeFox immediately. If you have donated already, please try to cashback the money. The donated money did not and will not make it to any of our staff members. This has been our greatest shame. We should never have trusted MakeFox this readily with our community's generosity. There is no excuse that we can offer. We should have exercised far more caution, and been far more suspicious of MakeFox. MakeFox is not willing to return the donations.
        MakeFox's methods
        Hinoserm is MakeFox's programmer. We have our own programmer, DRLa. It quickly became apparently that we have polar opposite views on how the website's infrastructure should be handled. Hinoserm believes that vibe coding is superior to human coding in every way and wished to make breakneck changes to the website at his whim, without the approval and without first telling either DRLa or our staff in general. Not only that, but he wants to upturn the site's codebase entirely and have his Claude agent swarm redo everything. He has shown no willingness to work together with DRLa. As an example, Hinoserm attempted to remove blep.art's takedown system without first consulting us. He does not understand the culture or the workings of the website. This is fine. What is not fine, is that he does not consult us before making sweeping changes. This has been a long-running theme in our short time working together. We believe that if we continued working with MakeFox, blep.art would shift away from our staff's and our community's vision against our will, either sooner or later. There was no way forward without betraying our community and essentially handing over the entire website to them on a silver platter. We tried talking it out over these last few days. We tried to have MakeFox see us as equals and value our input, but sadly this was not the outcome.

        What's next?
        This has all transpired in the last few hours, and we are still recovering. The dust has not settled. We do not know what the future holds for us, other than knowing that this Discord server will continue onward. From now on, we, the staff members running this very server, will no longer associate with blep.art or MakeFox. Blep.art now belongs fully to MakeFox (it was them that bought the domain name and are hosting the website). We will not be curating any more content on Blep.art, nor will we be moderating it or supporting it in any way. This server continues to be fully run by us. MakeFox no connection to this server anymore. The future of Blep.art itself is completely unknown to us. We recommend that you stop uploading on Blep.art from now on, as we have lost complete faith in their ability to run what should have been the continuation of e6ai. We are sorry for having rushed into this and to have broken your trust. There is a possibility that the website will be taken down. This is completely speculative, but it would be wise to, once again, backup anything you need from the website ASAP. We encourage you to delete your accounts as well, as we no longer have any trust in this company. Stay tuned for more information."

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      • So basically the same power hungry mods who in the past removed my videos promoting my Patreon from e621 citing quality issues (the models would sometimes clip through one another, which was unfixable in this context) and then barred advertisement of Patreons entirely on e6AI, are worried they'll lose all of their power, and they purport to speak for what "the community" wants...

        When all the community wants is a website where they can view art, and share art without some busybody thinking it should be up to them to get to decide if it gets to stay even though there's a perfectly good and democratic voting system built in that tells them exactly what the community does and does not like.

        And they're now endangering the community having an AI site for their art available at all by telling people MakeFox is bad and they shouldn't donate to them. Basically "If you're not gonna play by OUR rules, we're taking out ball and going home!"

        Also the absurdity of an AI art site's mods being against vibe coding is positively insane!

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      • I'm just throwing a massive opinion.
        Generally groups and corporations do not do anything for free.
        There is always self interest.
        This makefox does what it does for money regardless of the non-profit claim.
        This is likely is all about generating income in some manner.

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            n_n said:
            Warning going out considering new Blep site

            "Stop donating to MakeFox
            If you wanted to support our staff, we recommend that you stop donating to MakeFox immediately. If you have donated already, please try to cashback the money. The donated money did not and will not make it to any of our staff members. This has been our greatest shame. We should never have trusted MakeFox this readily with our community's generosity. There is no excuse that we can offer. We should have exercised far more caution, and been far more suspicious of MakeFox. MakeFox is not willing to return the donations.
            MakeFox's methods
            Hinoserm is MakeFox's programmer. We have our own programmer, DRLa. It quickly became apparently that we have polar opposite views on how the website's infrastructure should be handled. Hinoserm believes that vibe coding is superior to human coding in every way and wished to make breakneck changes to the website at his whim, without the approval and without first telling either DRLa or our staff in general. Not only that, but he wants to upturn the site's codebase entirely and have his Claude agent swarm redo everything. He has shown no willingness to work together with DRLa. As an example, Hinoserm attempted to remove blep.art's takedown system without first consulting us. He does not understand the culture or the workings of the website. This is fine. What is not fine, is that he does not consult us before making sweeping changes. This has been a long-running theme in our short time working together. We believe that if we continued working with MakeFox, blep.art would shift away from our staff's and our community's vision against our will, either sooner or later. There was no way forward without betraying our community and essentially handing over the entire website to them on a silver platter. We tried talking it out over these last few days. We tried to have MakeFox see us as equals and value our input, but sadly this was not the outcome.

            What's next?
            This has all transpired in the last few hours, and we are still recovering. The dust has not settled. We do not know what the future holds for us, other than knowing that this Discord server will continue onward. From now on, we, the staff members running this very server, will no longer associate with blep.art or MakeFox. Blep.art now belongs fully to MakeFox (it was them that bought the domain name and are hosting the website). We will not be curating any more content on Blep.art, nor will we be moderating it or supporting it in any way. This server continues to be fully run by us. MakeFox no connection to this server anymore. The future of Blep.art itself is completely unknown to us. We recommend that you stop uploading on Blep.art from now on, as we have lost complete faith in their ability to run what should have been the continuation of e6ai. We are sorry for having rushed into this and to have broken your trust. There is a possibility that the website will be taken down. This is completely speculative, but it would be wise to, once again, backup anything you need from the website ASAP. We encourage you to delete your accounts as well, as we no longer have any trust in this company. Stay tuned for more information."

            Enters "here we go again" meme from GTA San Andreas.

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          • hermanthegerman said:
            Enters "here we go again" meme from GTA San Andreas.

            Basically some folks are salty that they have a new boss and that one is more dedicated to singular direction than vacillating to whims. That's my read.

            I've been in the corporate world off and on for way too long to read it as anything but that. NDAs, directives, mandates are normal, especially in tech-sector matters unless you're a high-valued independent contractor that can name your own terms. That's just reality.

            I'm fine with blep thus far... we'll see, but if the swiss cheese moderation goes the way of the dodo, I'll not only be fine but pleased.

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          • Shame this site is leaving. it's pretty much the only good furry ai site. Is there any groups or projects in the works to migrate over to or is everyone just admitting defeat and moping around till the final days?

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          • n_n said:
            Warning going out considering new Blep site

            "Stop donating to MakeFox
            If you wanted to support our staff, we recommend that you stop donating to MakeFox immediately. If you have donated already, please try to cashback the money. The donated money did not and will not make it to any of our staff members. This has been our greatest shame. We should never have trusted MakeFox this readily with our community's generosity. There is no excuse that we can offer. We should have exercised far more caution, and been far more suspicious of MakeFox. MakeFox is not willing to return the donations.
            MakeFox's methods
            Hinoserm is MakeFox's programmer. We have our own programmer, DRLa. It quickly became apparently that we have polar opposite views on how the website's infrastructure should be handled. Hinoserm believes that vibe coding is superior to human coding in every way and wished to make breakneck changes to the website at his whim, without the approval and without first telling either DRLa or our staff in general. Not only that, but he wants to upturn the site's codebase entirely and have his Claude agent swarm redo everything. He has shown no willingness to work together with DRLa. As an example, Hinoserm attempted to remove blep.art's takedown system without first consulting us. He does not understand the culture or the workings of the website. This is fine. What is not fine, is that he does not consult us before making sweeping changes. This has been a long-running theme in our short time working together. We believe that if we continued working with MakeFox, blep.art would shift away from our staff's and our community's vision against our will, either sooner or later. There was no way forward without betraying our community and essentially handing over the entire website to them on a silver platter. We tried talking it out over these last few days. We tried to have MakeFox see us as equals and value our input, but sadly this was not the outcome.

            What's next?
            This has all transpired in the last few hours, and we are still recovering. The dust has not settled. We do not know what the future holds for us, other than knowing that this Discord server will continue onward. From now on, we, the staff members running this very server, will no longer associate with blep.art or MakeFox. Blep.art now belongs fully to MakeFox (it was them that bought the domain name and are hosting the website). We will not be curating any more content on Blep.art, nor will we be moderating it or supporting it in any way. This server continues to be fully run by us. MakeFox no connection to this server anymore. The future of Blep.art itself is completely unknown to us. We recommend that you stop uploading on Blep.art from now on, as we have lost complete faith in their ability to run what should have been the continuation of e6ai. We are sorry for having rushed into this and to have broken your trust. There is a possibility that the website will be taken down. This is completely speculative, but it would be wise to, once again, backup anything you need from the website ASAP. We encourage you to delete your accounts as well, as we no longer have any trust in this company. Stay tuned for more information."

            Great, instant political drama and more power struggle, just when random horny interneters need to fap. Lovely fandom, glad I'm not in nor do I trust it.

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          • silhouettewoofie said:
            Great, instant political drama and more power struggle, just when random horny interneters need to fap. Lovely fandom, glad I'm not in nor do I trust it.

            Blep seems to be fine. e6AI folks seem to be salty over new corporate structure. I attempted to ask both sides privately, got boilerplate nonspeak from now-not-staff and no ability to contact the corporate side from the site reset. My read is corporate-takeover pains, but there's a slim chance I could be incorrect.

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          • da_reel_digitaltf said:
            Blep seems to be fine. e6AI folks seem to be salty over new corporate structure. I attempted to ask both sides privately, got boilerplate nonspeak from now-not-staff and no ability to contact the corporate side from the site reset. My read is corporate-takeover pains, but there's a slim chance I could be incorrect.

            da_reel_digitaltf said:
            When you're an employee, you're not an equal. When your company is bought out, you're not an equal. you're a peon, no matter what your position, to the peons of the company that just bought yours.

            What of this concept is beyond comprehension? Or is it just me that understood that?

            Yeah, I wasn't involved in e6AI at all, really. For good reasons. But now you're just like me - on the outside of MakeFox's sandbox. Do you want to play in the sandbox or do you want to stomp off and take your toys and go home? Your choice. I choose to play, just like I did here. Welcome to the adult world of corporations and corporate takeovers. Sorry if it left you bruised. Sorry if it burst your bubble about 'community'. There never has been a furry community, an art community or anything like that because not everyone agrees on everything, or really anything. That's reality - basic, plain, and irreconcilable.

            I like your art and work, but... thinking that entitles you to something isn't reality. Not unless you own the sandbox.

            Just my thoughts, such as they are.

            da_reel_digitaltf said:
            Basically some folks are salty that they have a new boss and that one is more dedicated to singular direction than vacillating to whims. That's my read.

            I've been in the corporate world off and on for way too long to read it as anything but that. NDAs, directives, mandates are normal, especially in tech-sector matters unless you're a high-valued independent contractor that can name your own terms. That's just reality.

            I'm fine with blep thus far... we'll see, but if the swiss cheese moderation goes the way of the dodo, I'll not only be fine but pleased.

            Yeah. I basically share the same view. E6ai stuff side of story doesn't sound convincing or even not logical at all. They made quite some horny brain cells their enemies yet now when oligarchy overthrown by autocracy they expect users to take their side.

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