draco18s said:
There's a reason there's a joke on the Discord server about 1girl, standing

You're not wrong, but it's very rarely the creative stuff that fails the quality threshold. The people that put effort into doing creative gens also generally spend the time fixing the issues with the gen.

This falls back to the OP issue of gating people out who can't afford the higher tiers of hardware, as well as people who are new and still learning to perfect their art.

An example is myself: I made a series of 14 images, 10 of which I uploaded and 9 of which were deleted for various minor defects. I never actually noticed the defects until pointed out by the deletion reasons (shout out to angry puppy for being very specific on those, others mentioned lack of specificity as being an issue but he was very specific and that is helpful, frustrating as it is). This wasn't due to not caring about the art, but just a matter of perspective: I was focused on a zoomed out view of things, where puppy was obviously looking for defects as is his job per the current posting standard.

I spent a long time creating these flawed images, but I'm new and I wasn't specifically looking or thinking about the generation flaws that can occur, so it slipped by. However, I think the votes count for themselves, they gained a lot of positive attention in the short time they were able to be viewed. The images weren't generic, I spent time crafting them in specific poses, in a series with a story in mind and I even added little tidbits of that personal mental story to the descriptions. Flawed as they were, it was a labor of love, it took time, and it was unique and for those reasons well received and it was more well received than the hoards of generic content. This to me suggests we should be encouraging this type of flawed work by allowing it and helping guide those artists to reduce their flaws through a community that can offer help and support to one another so that it make lead to similarly creative, but flawless work.

lilac_clouds said:
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Imagine your own usage: do you go out of your way to downvote things you dislike? Would you do so if you knew it would get rid of it? I feel the answer by the vast majority of users would be: who has time for that?

You are right, I don’t waste my time downvoting stuff I don’t like. I simply ignore it.
Sadly there are enough users who act different. And everyone who has spent a considerable amount of time on e6ai will agree with me that it’s a fact that some rare kinks will get downvoted no matter the quality of the post.
I can only speculate what their motives are, probably they hope to discourage the users who create content they dislike so much that they will eventually stop uploading.
And if you would implement auto-deletion by downvote you would reward this hostile behavior.

silvicultor said:
You are right, I don’t waste my time downvoting stuff I don’t like. I simply ignore it.
Sadly there are enough users who act different. And everyone who has spent a considerable amount of time on e6ai will agree with me that it’s a fact that some rare kinks will get downvoted no matter the quality of the post.
I can only speculate what their motives are, probably they hope to discourage the users who create content they dislike so much that they will eventually stop uploading.
And if you would implement auto-deletion by downvote you would reward this hostile behavior.

This looks at it as if merely a high or positive score would be required, but by looking at a ratio we can require a significant percent of negative votes to positive votes. If we look at what is widely considered an unpopular category, scat, we can see that even this has mostly positive scores per image and the lowest is far higher than the lowest overall post rating, -29 to -109 or 1:4.

Furthermore, this is only a first pass suggestion. Other possibilities would be to use favorite counts or something, where by people need specifically want the image and people couldn't purposefully lower the score. using this in combination with some voting system or voting ratio would create a pretty fool proof method that isn't able to be easily manipulated.

lastly, can you prove that there are enough users who act differently? as it is, we cannot see positive and negative, only the sum. so we have no way of knowing how many people are actually voting against images that are unpopular vs how many are just not voting for those images. This is where a ratio comes in handy, you can see and account for an average bias and determine a number that takes that into account while providing the input you are seeking.

Angry puppy deleted my image that was previously approved by a different moderator. Clear fucking abuse of power, what an absolute joke. Get over yourself you butthurt fuck. I have the original images to prove you're a spiteful little shit, warping my ass.

lilac_clouds said:
This looks at it as if merely a high or positive score would be required, but by looking at a ratio we can require a significant percent of negative votes to positive votes. If we look at what is widely considered an unpopular category, scat, we can see that even this has mostly positive scores per image and the lowest is far higher than the lowest overall post rating, -29 to -109 or 1:4.

Furthermore, this is only a first pass suggestion. Other possibilities would be to use favorite counts or something, where by people need specifically want the image and people couldn't purposefully lower the score. using this in combination with some voting system or voting ratio would create a pretty fool proof method that isn't able to be easily manipulated.

lastly, can you prove that there are enough users who act differently? as it is, we cannot see positive and negative, only the sum. so we have no way of knowing how many people are actually voting against images that are unpopular vs how many are just not voting for those images. This is where a ratio comes in handy, you can see and account for an average bias and determine a number that takes that into account while providing the input you are seeking.

Yes, I can prove it. Just hover with your pointer over the score and you’ll see the exact count of up- and downvotes. Now you know that, you can investigate for yourself. And if you do, you will notice that even high quality images get downvotes.
There is no fair way you could tie the approval to the votes/favs. Such a system favors mainstream concepts and characters, and again it will result in the opposite of what you want.
You are hoping that people somehow will use the vote feature in a “responsible” way, but this isn’t happening.
It will discourage creativity and favor the most simple 1girl, standing of a few very well know characters and nothing else.

lilac_clouds said:
Angry puppy deleted my image that was previously approved by a different moderator. Clear fucking abuse of power, what an absolute joke. Get over yourself you butthurt fuck. I have the original images to prove you're a spiteful little shit, warping my ass.

If you're going to talk to staff or any user on the site for that matter please be respectful. That goes for the discord as well.

I am locking this thread now as it has run it's course.