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Can you recommend a model for generating in the "realism" style at the Pony Realism level or better? Please write if you know any, I’ll look at them.
P.S. For female anthro/feral

darknetwatcher said:
Can you recommend a model for generating in the "realism" style at the Pony Realism level or better? Please write if you know any, I’ll look at them.
P.S. For female anthro/feral

pony realism first then second pass through red sea. That with some manual editing gives real nice fur texture.

darknetwatcher said:
Can you recommend a model [...]

PonyRealism was my favorite model for a while. But some time ago I switched to disgustinglyreal. It acts like PonyRealism in most cases but is better at some tasks if you ask me (example: generating fluids). Also it's not a "real" pony model anymore, so you don't really need score tags (never liked those).
Another new approach for very realistic gens is to make an initial gen with flux and then inpaint over it with SDXL to turn the character into a real furry.

I loaded Red Sea and still couldn’t generate anything, it turns out to be complete nonsense. Flux cannot be used because I have a 6 GB video card, although SDXL works fine. I'll look at the second proposed model. That's why PonyRealism does everything so well, there's no need to suffer, if only there was a completely source_furry version it would be happiness.

blp

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darknetwatcher said:
I loaded Red Sea and still couldn’t generate anything, it turns out to be complete nonsense.

kind of a weird response to someone who was trying to help you. you also didn't read what they said apparently, they said to use Red Sea as a refiner, not for the initial generation.

plenty of people seem to be using it with good results so the whole thing probably isn't "complete nonsense". did you just swap models? because that's not going to work: it's not a Pony model and it's Lighting so you'd use low steps and low CFG as well as different prompting.

I read the advice about using Red Sea, but I didn't know that it only works like that and can't generate itself. If anyone else has interesting models that can generate on their own, please write.

darknetwatcher said:
I read the advice [...]

If a model doesn't work at all the most likely explanation is that you used the wrong settings. There are recommended settings for every model (CFG, Steps, Sampler). If you don’t pay attention to that, you will get poor or no results at all.

Also to be honest with you: Your card is not really good for SDXL. 6 GB VRAM is barley enough, yes you can make it work, but it will be a pain. I have 12 GB and when I use multiple LORAs and ControlNet my VRAM will be full.
That could be reason too, if a model doesn't work at all. Because if your computer is really close to running out of memory it will cease to function correctly. Anything can happen than (WebUI crashing, generated image is just a black square etc.).

The only models you can surely run without issues will be SD1.5 ones. It’s not like that you can’t get good results with SD1.5. My old “recipe” before I switched to SDXL was initial gen with bb95 and snoutmix as a refiner for more realism. But don’t use too much snoutmix, otherwise it will turn your furries into nightmareish humans...

blp

Member

darknetwatcher said:
I read the advice about using Red Sea, but I didn't know that it only works like that and can't generate itself.

i don't think that's the case, that's just what Jelloponies was recommending using it for. however if you are using it for standalone generation then stuff like using the correct prompt format and parameters like CFG is going to be a lot more important.

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