Topic: I want to learn how to do AI Art better, Please help me understand!

Posted under Art Talk

I'm not sure how to say this, but in terms of creating AI art I use the standard plebian websites to generate art and call it a day. They're okay but they're not masterpieces. They're still in that phase where hands, eyes, and feet can still be wonky. But everything on E6AI is so well trained or so descriptive that I can barely even tell that it's AI.

Please, I want to learn how to do this myself so that I too can contribute to the site with my own creations. I plan to post some of the stuff I created here as well, my characters, but they aren't at the level I want it to truly be in like these works of art
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I have 0 to NO knowledge on how to make such creations. I need a teacher or at the very least a helping hand is all I ask.

If you cannot teach me or if there are tricks to learn. Can you direct me to sites you use to generate images? That helps me a lot too! :)

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choombah said:
I'm not sure how to say this, but in terms of creating AI art I use the standard plebian websites to generate art and call it a day. [...]

First of all, most people generate locally (me too). But the downside is you need a computer with a decent amount of VRAM (>8 GB than you can really play the game). If you do that the possibilities to combine Models, LORAs etc. are almost endless. I don't think any website can offer that. Also you can do inpainting and use other img2img techniques. And if you want (almost) flawless images, you will have to do this A LOT. I often work for many hours on one image!

There are no secret tricks (except maybe set to "only masked" when inpainting), it is really much learning by doing.

But if you want to learn more or need specific help I strongly advise to join the FD server. You will find an answer to almost every AI-related question there. You can find the invite link here on the site on the tab discord.

silvicultor said:
First of all, most people generate locally (me too). But the downside is you need a computer with a decent amount of VRAM (>8 GB than you can really play the game). If you do that the possibilities to combine Models, LORAs etc. are almost endless. I don't think any website can offer that. Also you can do inpainting and use other img2img techniques. And if you want (almost) flawless images, you will have to do this A LOT. I often work for many hours on one image!

There are no secret tricks (except maybe set to "only masked" when inpainting), it is really much learning by doing.

But if you want to learn more or need specific help I strongly advise to join the FD server. You will find an answer to almost every AI-related question there. You can find the invite link here on the site on the tab discord.

How do you start generating locally?
What software do you need to start doing this?
I can't believe that there doesn't seem to be a guide on here to tell people how to start getting into the hobby (unless I'm just dumb and blind).

8woofy said:
How do you start generating locally?
What software do you need to start doing this?
I can't believe that there doesn't seem to be a guide on here to tell people how to start getting into the hobby (unless I'm just dumb and blind).

Yes, you need special software. Forge, reForge or ComfyUI are popular choices.
Here in an easy to understand guide for reForge: https://rentry.co/fluffscaler-install
After installing you download models, usually from Civitai.
I strongly recommend to join FD server (link here on the site in "Discord" tab). There you can get help if you have problems.

8woofy said:
How do you start generating locally?
What software do you need to start doing this?
I can't believe that there doesn't seem to be a guide on here to tell people how to start getting into the hobby (unless I'm just dumb and blind).

Basic local generation is pretty easy if you have an Nvidia GPU with over 6GB VRAM. You just install a UI (Forge/Reforge, maybe ComfyUI if you're not afraid of nodes), preferably via StabilityMatrix, download a model (checkpoint) and a VAE, launch the UI, set some parameters, type the prompt and generate.
I think this guide is pretty good for beginners:
https://twai.dev/prerequisites/software

silvicultor said:
Yes, you need special software. Forge, reForge or ComfyUI are popular choices.
Here in an easy to understand guide for reForge: https://rentry.co/fluffscaler-install
After installing you download models, usually from Civitai.
I strongly recommend to join FD server (link here on the site in "Discord" tab). There you can get help if you have problems.

tyto4tme4l said:
Basic local generation is pretty easy if you have an Nvidia GPU with over 6GB VRAM. You just install a UI (Forge/Reforge, maybe ComfyUI if you're not afraid of nodes), preferably via StabilityMatrix, download a model (checkpoint) and a VAE, launch the UI, set some parameters, type the prompt and generate.
I think this guide is pretty good for beginners:
https://twai.dev/prerequisites/software

Thank you to both of you. I'll look into those suggestions.
I was not expecting such quick and informative responses to my questions.
You were both very helpful.

8woofy said:
How do you start generating locally?
What software do you need to start doing this?
I can't believe that there doesn't seem to be a guide on here to tell people how to start getting into the hobby (unless I'm just dumb and blind).

I recommend using krita with the ai image generation plug in.
It's a really nice software and if you want to move on to more advanced it contains comfyui as well woth the press of a button.