Topic: [BUR] Tag Implication: Skaven -> Rat, Warhammer Fantasy

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #1017 is pending approval.

create implication skaven (84) -> rat (1006)
create implication skaven (84) -> warhammer_fantasy (58)

Reason: Reason 1: Skaven are physically identical to anthro rats. Most users currently tag these characters with both "skaven" and "rat."

Reason 2: Skaven currently implies warhammer_(franchise). As Skaven are specific to Warhammer Fantasy, the "warhammer_fantasy" tag would also be relevant here.

drla said:
Fantasy species shouldn't imply real life ones. That's why rattata doesn't imply rat or even rodent.

Wait, that's a rule? Because I do tend to tag order names on pokémon, like rodent or feline, at least if they're unambiguous enough.
Not rat or cat of course, that's too specific and would mess with the results for actual rats and domestic cats.

I thought those implications weren't used simply because their order can't be guaranteed to be clear every time someone draws/gens them (like a kemonomimi version or some such).

Updated

DRLa

Developer

hammapajamma said:
Wait, that's a rule? Because I do tend to tag order names on pokémon, like rodent or feline, at least if they're unambiguous enough.
Not rat or cat of course, that's too specific and would mess with the results for actual rats and domestic cats.

I thought those implications weren't used simply because their order can't be guaranteed to be clear every time someone draws/gens them (like a kemonomimi version or some such).

Not sure if it's a rule as much as it's best practice. While fantasy species might take inspiration from real life ones, they're not always clearly part of any branch of the real world phylogenic tree, so they're best handled separately, like gryphon has its own mythological_avian tree.

E621 does have rodent being implicated from skaven, but only that, since a rat is just a rat.
(Also rattata doesn't have that)

DRLa

Developer

technical-grid said:
E621 does have rodent being implicated from skaven, but only that, since a rat is just a rat.
(Also rattata doesn't have that)

While I'd prefer an intermediate fantasy_rodent (or something like it), I'm fine with copying e621 on this. I'd approve that version of it.