I'll just quote myself to bring back my arguments all on this thread again:

topic #300

As I've only found out about this after it got approved, I would like to formally request to revert the nintendo BUR, as fundamentally, Nintendo is a company, and not a franchise.

Copyrights, company names, which character is owned by who, doesn't have its place on e6ai. The copyright category first got removed for a reason when e6ai was created, and it was to wipe clean all implication to any copyright tags which would imply that AI art was subject to the same copyright laws as non-generative art.

AI art in most countries is not protected by ownership claims not is it recognized of intellectual property values, so putting copyright tags on generative media is both silly and has potential legal issues for the directors that uploads content here. Tagging copyrights has no meaningful value here, nor is it useful for AI training datasets, and it's certainly not useful for narrowing down content that we're searching for. Unless someone wants to discuss a valid reason why a company name tag should be automatically added to any character it belongs to, instead of only providing "Reason: Anything that is missing here please suggest" with no context as to why there should be such an implication, then it should be reverted back.

If users want to tag them manually on their on posts, they are free to do so. But forcing directors to upload here to have copyright tags on their AI-generated art is not okay. Nintendo does not own my ai-genned characters. I do not own my ai-genned characters. Nobody does.

If I wanna search for any pokemon content, I'm gonna search for pokemon. Not nintendo.

A company name is much too broad for narrowing down a search query when I already know a more specific tag I could search content for. If there's a use for you, good for you, I'm not stopping you from ever using the nintendo for tagging and searching if you wish.

My point is, I do not want copyright tags to be automatically added to all of my posts here simply because I'm being forced by the implication chain, especially since it can have negative legal repercussion to ever try to legitimize AI art as "copyrightable" under my own country's set of laws...

I'm not asking to remove the nintendo tag. Simply removing the implication. Because I provided a clear reason why any director would want to not have 'ownership claims' on their posts because of potential repercussions.

e6ai differs in many ways from e621: one of which is the lack of alternative AI-friend websites to host their content. E6ai is for some directors the best place to host and share their AI content without size/filesize/prohibited content restrictions. Therefore, it's the primary source of their post instead of having it linked from another website and "reposted" on that booru like e621. So if that content gets taken down for any legal reason in the future, then it may be lost forever.

I would also be in favor for changing nintendo's tag type to general as well though. To me, it just feels like people want to port out the old e621 system back on here rather than add useful tags to use to search for... Tag what you see; there should be no 'nintendo' tag unless there's an actual nintendo console shown in the image.

topic #385

Tagging video game consoles as franchises would be the same as calling vhs_player, dvd_player, blueray_player all different franchises...

It's not. It's a support media, and again has zero value to elevate that tag's importance on the same level as its fictional universe. Franchise tags even shows up "above" the character's name category tag, hence why it should be used sparingly. What next? Is Netflix a franchise? Amazon prime? CD-ROM?

And I'll add to this: why would a brand of shoes that may or may not be recognized as a copyright that a character just happens to be wearing in a tiny part of the image would be given more importance than even the character's name or any of the general use descriptive tags for searching and filtering? Species, body type, fetish tag, etc.

What if I want to use it in my negative filters... "Eww, nintendo characters, don't want to see that." *Puts nintendo in the negative search query or blacklist.* But then it ends up blocking posts that has 2 non-copyrighted nintendo characters that just happens to be gaming on a visible nintendo console... It missed the target of being useful here because it is too broad and ends up blocking more content that a regular user would expect by using it in the negatives.

topic #396

So let me show y'all exactly what we have in the "franchise" type tag now because we absolutely need to add copyright tags as franchises according to some users; internet memes that almost no one heard about, game studios, shoes brand, car brand, supermarket...: terrified_noot_noot, insomniac_games, 2k_games, adidas, adidas_logo, costco. Those are all copyright tags repurposed as franchise type as of right now... Nobody cares about elevating the importance of those tags. Copyright tags are everywhere; Technically, everything is copyrightable... Paper tissues? Oh well, that's Kleenex brand of course. So why are some copyright tags allowed and not others? That makes no sense...

And how would you even prove it's that exact "brand" with AI art, especially since AI is very bad at replicating text/logos. I've seen characters tagged as a rule34 character that ultimately looks nothing like the real character that the uploader tagged them as: Wrong fur color/fur pattern, wrong eye color, size? To me, it just look like a generic character that the director happened to put in the prompt and the AI model either didn't have training data on that character or simply could not replicate their physical features. Half of rocket_raccoon character tag just depict a generic raccoon because the AI failed to replicate the monotone brown fur that this character has because of its heavy bias to generate furries with a different color belly fur. And with an implication chain, a barely recognizable character would automatically add copyright tags in the franchise category just because someone put that character name in the prompt and just pollute the database with several wrong tags.

Furthermore, copyright tags dont't respect the Tags What You See policy of any booru archive site. There has always been an exception for anything that isn't general, but I don't see any valid reason being discussed here or anywhere else on this forum for making an exception for copyright tags on art that is essentially not even subject to copyright law protection under many juridiction. Who exactly wants this system back? We haven't had copyright elevated nor franchise tags for 2 years already, so who exactly does it even serve to pollute the database?