Topic: Arbitrariety of "no-young" content

ieiji said:
this site has been shaky on cub since the start for reasons i can't understand. i think the main 'argument' if i recall was "well the models might be trained on real CP" which is a dumb argument for several reasons because one nobody would do that and two this site allows very graphically realistic depictions of ferals, which easily could also be trained on real animals. realistically any model could be trained on illegal or immoral content and you'd have no way of knowing it, it's just that cub is the most blaringly alarming to most people despite, imho, the potential bestiality imagery involved with feral models being equally unjustifiable.

anyway, if you want young or cub ai art then inkbunny has you covered, no need to waste time trying to change the minds of e6 admins because they are notoriously... well, you know.

I also looked for alternatives, because they even delete "innocent" nude depictions of petite or teenage women here, if they don't have massive breasts. The problem with inkbunny is that you *have* to meticulously write an exact manual how to reproduce every gen you post, down to the last detail. That's not really AI friendly, no matter what they say.

Rule34 allows *all* furry art without exception, because, as they state in their FAQ, there is no law that outlaws any of it, since furries are not technically humans, not even depictions of them. They don't have any restrictions or special rules for AI gens either. But, of course, Rule34 is not a dedicated furry site, unfortunately. It's a bit ironic that they stick to the law there, while here, on a dedicated furry site, they ban legal furry art...

The site owners here are waiting for some kind of court order concerning AI and CP. I don't think they themselves know what kind of precedence they are waiting for, because, again, furry art is never illegal, nor is hosting it. Their fears seem rather diffuse and their fascination with AI art rudimentary at best. The frequency of new forum posts here is below one per day and they still don't seem to bother ever reading or responding to any of it.

And, from a moral perspective, like I wrote in this thread: https://e6ai.net/forum_topics/124
"both "good" and "bad" (trained on abusive/illegal data) models can produce both young and adult furries, so by banning young furries (which apparently includes young adults now as well), you don't ensure in any way that the models used were good ones. There is so much "young" furry training data on e621 already, and it's been used in training all the furry models on civitAI - the ones that everyone here uses. Why would anyone, in this of all places, need any abusive/illegal real-life models? It doesn't make any sense. It's a frickin furry site..."

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