Topic: A lukewarm defense of the quality standards

ayokeito said:
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I don't think I understand. I'm suggesting a simple rule for all posts, regardless of content: if it reaches (random number) 50 score in 24 hours, it stays—even if it has a watermark all over the image.
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OK, then let me explain. Linking the approval to score simply breaks the principle of neutrality and equality.
Let me give you an IRL example for this: If I park my car, let’s say on a fire lane (or some similar emergency access road etc.) I will get a heavy fine for doing it, because it’s against the rules (and these rules exist for a good reason.)
Now imagine some celebrity doing it and they can just say “hey, I’m popular, these rules don’t apply to me!”. And they get away with it. Do you wanna live in such a society?

And for e6ai this would mean:
“Hey, I’m [POPULAR TWITTER USERNAME], I can upload here whatever I want, my dedicated followers will upvote just anything! Those silly rules only apply to you unknown, insignificant users!”

But you know what? Neither your suggestion (auto-approval) nor mine (hard limit) will ever be implemented. Because e6ai website code is linked to e621. And implementing one of these new rules would require substantial change of the e6ai website code, which would lead to incompatibility with e621, creating a huge amount of extra work for admins upon every update. So the chances are 99.9% that none of this will ever happen.

As for Patreon, I wouldn’t know

Well, I don’t know if it’s actually successful. But you can see there are posts like “Visit Patreon for nude version” or “AMAZING 50 IMAGE PACK ON PATREON!!!!” posts everyday. These people only post here to shill their Patreon, not for the community, nothing else.
And imo the purpose of e6ai should be that furry AI enthusiasts can share their work, and not a place for advertising.

And yes, everyone should be able to participate equally. That’s why the hard limit would be so beneficial.
And yes, the quality standards might keep some people from participating, too. So reviewing that again might also be a good idea, but only in combination with the limit (that will never exist), otherwise you would favor quantity over quality too much.
Some users who have been posting rawgens for a very long time have absurdly high upload limits. These users can fill a whole page with their posts within minutes (or even faster if they use API). Nobody can tell me that this is desirable, fair or beneficial for the e6ai community.

busahou said:
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The one time I tried to use Civitai for feral porn they blocked my post within like 30 minutes. Granted I haven't tried uploading there since then.

Yeah, realistic feral is probably the only bad thing to upload, despite Civitai not stating in the rules that it is forbidden. Rules only say human on feral is forbidden, not feral furry as a whole. You can find some feral on the site however, if it’s not too realistic. Talked with a user about it who had some of their feral content removed. They said “pony” is OK “horse” is not. Pretty weird policy.
But Civitai has zero quality control. And aside from the feral thing they really allow almost everything. You can see many deepfake posts of real persons there for example...

scout said:
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Putting some real effort in a gen and then seeing it basically get ignored simply because a bunch of users decided to batch upload 20 variations of discutable quality of the same seed right after you and your single post just gets buried under the slop is just as disheartening feeling as seeing a post you cared about being taken down. In both cases you feel like you were wasting time taking the time to upload.[...]

I wish I could UPVOTE your post somehow! There are very few people who are able to understand both sides.

fluffscaler said:
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There's definitely a lack of focus. But this thread has also lost focus. I've said my piece and I'll leave it at that.

What is the intended focus of the thread? Quality control and how it affects the site and the community, right? We are still talking about that?!